Voters Divided Over Climate Change Cause

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1. Richard

   ‘aliens living among us.’ I have had my own encounters with supernatural forces as I have mentioned in my book Crop Circles and Climate Change. It was quite the phenomenal experience let me tell you so I am quite familiar with the entire topic. Some have even looked to me as a sort of expert on the subject. I believe I even have an understanding of alien abductions. But what concerns me though is this idea of people believing that they are something other than what Jesus taught and O if only Forrestral had paid attention to His teachings then the outcome of his life would have looked much different than what it has! It actually came as quite a surprise to me to hear and learn of his story because my opinion/belief has always been that the US was and is a deeply religious and christian nation at least during his years which makes everyone knowledgable about such matters? How shortsighted and ill conceived that though was/is. It brings too mind those words of God’s from the book of Hosea
   “My people are destroyed from a lack of knowledge.” {4:6}
   Anyway I’ll just leave you and everyone else here with these words of Jesus- DO NOT BE DECEIVED.

   Cheers

   Jerry Lesac

2. @Jerry: I appreciate your devotion to your faith and to the crop circles as works of “divinity”/space aliens?? As you must be aware Zacharias Sitchen has many volumes that detail the origins of “civilized” man’s epoch here….I was merely wondering if the NASA flight to the Moon was a pre-emptive strike to prevent colonists from having a “pristine” environment to rely on. Secondly, that the Chinese are imminently sending colonists to the Moon;and the USA is sending that bomb! As for Forrestal, yes, what a tragic life…If you read Catherine’s earlier blogs/articles, she points out that the NSA Act of 1947 and the CIA Act of 1949 are precursors to numerous financial machinations ( to fund the many “black ops” no doubt) and as she remarked on a late night radio program not long ago: “How do you suppose they fund Area 51?”….And yes Operation Bluebook is a detailed account of mid-20th Century UFO sightings. I lived on Maui years ago and a friend OMAR maintained a book store in Wailuku which focussed on such material…The radio report I mentioned is/was real…and then surpressed…I truly believe we don’t need to search into the Galaxy for extra-terrestials…they most likely live amongst us…Frankly I started writing a short story about the invasion of Iraq II( Iraqi Freedom) where I surmise that the real purpose of the invasion was a cover to hide a covert ops landing to investigate a cavernous region near Acadia where an unknown life form was detected by satellite infrared photography( there now that I have given my premise away,HA!)…( and no I didn’t mean Saddam Hussein’s cubbyhole )…So we live in interesting times…Most contrarians see the handy work of the current administration as ill conceived and wrong headed…the insiders protecting the insiders…Maintaining the status is all they know…As for Climate Change..yes..my concern relates to a report I read that detailed that if the Arctic ice sheet should melt and the Arctic tundra were to be thoroughly exposed the radiant solar rays would unleash 10X the amount of CO2 and methane stored in the tundra than all the amount that is being spoken of in the press as “mankind’s handywork”…So if per chance the release of those gases were to occur..then we are in deep do-do!!!as always, Richard(theoldwiseman)

3. Richard actually I think you’ll find this a little more entertaining-the Creator answered a prayer from a satellite!!! LOL I just love God’s sense of humor that He injects into some of what is going on. From my book pg. 194

   As usual God looks to inform. The warnings are there and don’t you just love the sense of humor that God interjects into some of what is going on. Like for example what occurred in a wheat field next to a giant radio telescope in England back in 2004 as described by this Wired magazine article:

   “Glickman’s “hard information” refers to a moment at the end of last summer’s growing season when the crop circles turned away from the abstract. On August 14, an enigmatic human face, expertly executed in halftones, turned up next to a huge radio transmitter in Chilbotin, England. A few days later, a glyph appeared that many croppies believe to be an alien response to a SETI radio transmission sent into space almost 30 years ago. Formed out of expertly twisted wheat, the pattern shows a strand of DNA made with silicon instead of phosphorous, a transmission device of unknown design, an alternate solar system, and an extraterrestrial with a wide head.
   One thing is for sure: The formation proves beyond a doubt that the life form responsible for it has a super-evolved sense of humor. In the words of Seth Shostak, senior astronomer of the SETI Institute, it’s good fun and a nice example of grain graffiti -but not worth taking seriously. “If aliens wanted to communicate with us, why would they use such a low bandwidth method?” he asks. Why not just leave an Encyclopedia Galactica on our doorstep? He also noted that SETI’s original signal was aimed at the star cluster M13, which means it, will not reach its target for 24,972 more years. The Institute he says “has no interest in investigating the phenomenon further.”
   Go here for the picture http://www.mightycompanions.org/cropcircles/wired/wheatgraffiti.html

   Yep, God always looks to answer prayer even the electronic type! WOW! What a truly fascinating God we serve and to think that this is something, ‘not worth taking seriously?’ You have got to be kidding?! What is wrong with people? To be faced with the very thing that mankind has been searching for should cause us all to jump up and down for joy not just glumly cast it aside as something extraneous. What has ignorance of the bible and religion really become such now that people have no way of recognizing the work of Almighty God when they see it? Or have people really become so dull in mind where the issue of sin and religion is concerned that they have just canceled it from their minds altogether?

   Cheers

   Jerry Lesac

4. Hi Bert

   I fine this to be one of the most insightful and astonishing of all quotes and one in which speaks volumes does it not about the current housing bubble and what not?

   ‘The world lives in a fool’s paradise based upon fictitious wealth, rash promises, and mad
   illusions,’ he said. ‘We must beware of booms based upon false prosperity which has its roots in inflated credits and prices.’* German Jewish Central Banker Paul Warburg circa 1920

   100 years on and we are still learning nothing and if you wish the complete citation here it is in its entirety…

   “In economics, Paul’s prophetic powers were as unerring as Aby’s in the
   cultural sphere, and he initiated a new phase as an embattled Cassandra.
   Whether from his Jewish background, personal sensitivity, or outsider status
   as an immigrant, he had a coldly detached vision of things. His Washington
   defeat had only sharpened his loathing for political folly and ineptitude.
   For the past five years, he thought, the world had consumed more than it
   produced, creating inflationary pressures. Now the governments were printing
   money instead of submitting to needed austerity. *’The world lives in a
   fool’s paradise based upon fictitious wealth, rash promises, and mad
   illusions,’ he said. ‘We must beware of booms based upon false prosperity
   which has its roots in inflated credits and prices.’*

   Indeed global inflation crested in 1920, followed by a severe slump-the
   first confirmation of Paul’s grim prophecies.”
   There was a moralistic dimension to his predictions. Paul saw wartime
   sacrifice giving way to intoxicated self-indulgence-a theme he would sound
   up to the 1929 crash. He criticized America’s selfish retreat from global
   responsibility and the materialistic frivolity of the Jazz Age. He thought
   America morally obligated to assist European recovery by reducing German
   reparations and war debts owed to America by its Allies. Paul took on the
   stoic, unbending tone of a prophet who knew the world was weak, selfish, and
   deaf to his warnings.” {Chernow pg. 223-224 The Warburgs}

   Is this double speak? moreover consider this the Warburgs at least Paul anyway was a deeply religious man having been trained in Talmudic studies as a child? Moreover Catch 22 I think is often to be found in the world of money and banking. Most never started out to be villians and so forth but rather ended up facing two very difficult choices which often ends up in either your damned if you do and your damned if you don’t. Sound familiar doesn’t it?

   As for the oil crisis or so called oil crisis if there isn’t one now there shortly will be one given the enormous consumption that is or will be going on especially once China and India get really going with their growth. Look I believe the earth doesn’t have an infinite supply of resources and we are a voracious people at consuming everything.

   Yes Bert I am the author of that Book and you know instead of all of the doom and gloom consider what happened over the city of Singapore back in the early eighties!

   “Last year, the business leaders of Singapore got a vision from the Holy Spirit. They were to sponsor a national crusade to reach all of Singapore. They rented the local soccer stadium, which seats 70,000 people. One business leader alone, Mr. Wy Wy Wong, paid for the total advertising in every newspaper in the country. The committee was composed of pastors, professional people and businessmen. These men and women had one thing in common. They had a burning desire for revival in Singapore, which had a small Christian population.

   Night after night, for five straight nights, the rain came in torrents. But by six o’clock every evening, the sky would clear and we were able to have large crowds gather to hear the gospel.

   The total count of people that came forward to accept Christ amazed me. I repeated nightly. ‘Please only those who want to accept Christ as their personal Savior for the first time in your life, only you come forward.’ Yet, we counted more than 50,000 people making decisions for Christ.” {pg. 130 Cho}

   Moreover if you wish to read some even more fantastic encounters with the Creator read my excerpts over at http://www.cropcirclesandclimatechange.com/excerpts

   Cheers

   Jerry Lesac

   We are living in some truly fantastic if not fateful days!

   Richard. Richard lol and have you read about Forrestal…

   “The U.S. Government is being taken over by the space people!”
   “This rumor spread throughout the country in 1967, an updated version of the old devil theory. Actually it got its start in 1949 when James V. Forrestal, the brilliant secretary of defense in the Truman cabinet, went bananas and raced through the corridors of the Pentagon screaming, “We’re being invaded and we can’t stop them!” He was convinced that his phones were being tapped and some enormous conspiracy was underway. Soon after he was placed in a hospital he leaped out a window to his death. While the press blamed his paranoia on the tensions of the cold war, the UFO enthusiasts knew better. Air force Intelligence had compiled a Top Secret Estimate of the Situation following their UFO investigations in 1947-48. Their conclusion, according to the late Capt. Edward Ruppelt, was that flying saucers were extraterrestrial. Forrestal, so the story went, was one of the few to read that report before Air Force Chief of Staff Hoyt Vandenburg ordered all copies destroyed and it blew his mind.
   Two other top military men, Gen. George C. Marshall and Gen. Douglas MacArthur were obsessed with the flying saucer phenomenon. MacArthur made several public statements declaring the next war would be fought against ‘evil beings from outer space.’ A fabled “think thank,” the Rand Corporation, was assigned to feed UFO data into a computer and fight an imaginary war with those evil beings. Since we wouldn’t know where they are from, what there technology was, or how to attack their bases, the computer advised us to surrender.” {pg. 216-217 Keel}

5. @Bert and @ Jerry: Wow, divine intervention!!! Phew!! Now that’s worth talking about!! I recall the Cecil B. de Mill epochs( ie: The Ten Commandments ) and the Indiana Jones sagas…where divine intervention saved the day…as an informal student of the five books of Moses( Pentatuch ), the Teachings/writings of Jesus( New Testament ), and the Koranic texts of Mohammed as well, I find great dependence on faith and the “hand of g-d” to solve our problems throughout biblical history…I studied as a young man the Tao Te Ching, where it is said that when Lao Tsu approached the gate to depart the ancient middle kingdom and was commanded to write the Tao before exiting oriental civilization…Is the new NASA probe ( and detonation ) headed to the moon an attempt to contaminate the surface before the Chinese colonizers land there in the next year or two??? Surely there are other methods to detect H2O on the lunar landscape! Why a bomb?? and will it be a “dirty bomb” at that??? With the Moon being our nearest yet almost uncontaminated landscape will that explosion remove it from becoming our last “pristine” future home ??? A pre-emptive strike preventing colonizers to start fresh on the lunar surface…without Earth’s controllers to contend with…Maybe I’m going off into realms of sci-fi I don’t know!! ( I remember that when the first module to orbit the moon came back into radio frequency after passing the dark side the first words were: “There are thousands of them” ). But as a youth I always conjured the notion that certain elites ( Nelson Rockefeller for instance) were pocket visionaries and might have set aside Palau and Micronesia as a safe haven( rather than their becoming the current homeland for Gitmo refugees ) for “utopians” much like I’m suggesting the Moon may become in future years. Why was Rockefeller assassinated anyway?? Anyway thanx Bert for recognizing my prior entry into this very well documented conversation, as always, Richard(theoldwiseman)

6. Jerry,

   I’m going to disagree with you on a couple things. First, the “peak-oil crisis” is manufactured, and is in alignment with and part of the manufactured “Humanity vs. The World” dialectic. Second, Keynes, Warburg, Wilson et. al. were plotters in post-WWI Europe…. i don’t see their writings as benevolent…..I think it is important to see the double-speak in their statements.

   Also, are you the author of…
   http://books.google.com/books?id=F_e9F7KMHAsC&dq

7. O here’s another thought? The atomic bomb a curse or a blessing? It got everyone thinking and talking about what is really important that is as you say Bert the “Humanity versus Planet” and/or “One World versus No World” dialectic.” What about crop circles though which I beleive Mr. Rockerfeller has taken a great interest in himself? Hmmmm what about that and of course these words from the bible…

   “See to it that you do not refuse Him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from Him who warns us from heaven? At that time His voice shook the earth, but now He has promised, ‘Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens.’ The words ‘once more’ indicate the removing of what can be shaken -that is, created things-so that what cannot be shaken may remain. Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, for our God is a consuming fire.” {Hebrews 12:25-29}

   Unbelievable a 600 foot jelly fish!! A 600 FOOT JELLY FISH!!!!!

8. Jerry, there is no doubt in my mind that God will step-in and correct things if humanity fails to do so itself.

   I have not been able to find proof of this, but I was told the story that during WWII some German soldiers were trained for firing squad duty in order to shoot Jewish prisoners. Even though the soldiers were psychologically conditioned for this duty, they would frequently find that their “trigger fingers” started “sticking” after about 1-week of this duty. Hence, they could not continue to shoot the Jewish prisoners. This happened so frequently that the Germans were forced to “solve” the problem, and this is why the Gas chambers were eventually built at the various Jewish labor camps. I’ve always felt that this was God’s hand, as there was no scientific or other explanation for the “syndrome” (What some call the “Ghost in the Machine”).

   Richard, you are quite correct in your assessment. I find it incredulous that so many fail to see that our problems are consistently manufactured by those who seek to benefit from their outcome. There is much talk in military strategy circles now about the concept of 4th Generational Warfare (4GW), which is really just non-state actors perpetrating acts against others (i.e. ‘terrorism’). Why is it so many swallow that the so-called terrorist acts that we are witnessing all over the globe are perpetrated by poor individuals from Islam, when it is the elite, and their desire to destroy the state, who have the most to gain?

9. Bert

   Indeed it does Bert! The experts or rather so called experts are not gods. For them its always a kind of trial and error so to speak and as I reflect over our technological innovations i often wonder what someone like Rothschilds would have done during Napoleons wars if there existed the nuclear option? It’s one thing for nations to kill each other using sticks and stones or bows and arrows or machine guns and tanks! It’s quite another to see entire nations going up in smoke. No one is safe get it? As for Paul Warburg he must have been lying awake in stark horror of what he knew and understood of the banking mess and crisis of his years. Do you know that he was horrified of the treaty of Versallies and not only him but significantly more important John Maynard Keynes who Sherdan sums up quite eloquently this way…

   “After serving as an official representative to the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 during which the terms of settlement for World War 1 were set, Keynes came away shocked at the vengeful and shortsighted nature of the settlement. In his book The Economic Consequences of the Peace, Keynes warned of the dangers that would arise from the fact that “the Treaty includes no provision for the economic rehabilitation of Europe-nothing to make the defeated Central Empires into good neighbors.” He correctly predicted that a combination of starvation and hyperinflation inflicted on Germany would ultimately lead to social upheaval throughout Europe: “Men will not always die quietly…In their distress [they] may overturn the remnants of organization, and submerge civilization itself.” This is precisely what happened to Germany under the burden of paying war reparations and continuing to suffer the effects of its destroyed economy. Although he anticipated the potential for a dictator to emerge from such a desperate situation, Keynes, unlike more recent futurists, made no hard and fast predictions of what would happen, instead questioning, “But who can say… in what direction men will seek at last to escape their misfortunes.” {pg. 213 Sherden}

   What foresight!

   Moreover folks this idea that the U. S. Central Bank is the source of everyone’s nightmares seems to me rather misguided and why do I say this? Well consider the words of Chernow…

   “On January the 15th 1920, the appeal authored by Keynes and Paul Warburg and signed by many luminaries was issued to the press. Herbert Hoover, William Howard Taft, and J.P. Morgan Jr., cosigned the American version with Paul. They stated that burdensome reparations could foster revolution in Germany and Austria as popular revulsion against unjust debt bred an ugly desperate mood. The affected governments would print money to pacify the populace, generating inflation. This prescient document had no effect, as Hoover had warned Paul. Indeed the U.S. Treasury Department thought its dire predictions overblown and resented Paul’s involvement as possibly conveying an impression of official American favor. In April 1921, the Allies set the reparations tab at a stupendous 132 billion gold marks or 33 billion.” {pg. 223 Chernow}

   The U. S. Treasury?

   So imagine Keynes along with Paul Warburg a central banker tried to prevent WW2!!!!!

   Banks moreover never had the kind of technological advancements as before when they were literally drowning in paper. today though everything is simplified with the computer so Bert of course things are and will continue to be modified. Consider for a moment the whole peak oil crisis-no one back in the thiries or forties even considered it. Can you imagine Hitler running around talking and arguing with his advisors ooops we better do this thing quickly before the oil runs out? Things are changing so fast that it often saddens me how miserable and even angry these men behind the scenes are or are becoming. Look for heavens sakes we were never created to deal with such unbelievable and complex issues. I couldn’t begin to imagine having to live and work dealing with trying to control the world or as Orwell said Big Brother? {Rockerfeller wanting to abolish the internet}
   In Aaron Russo video Fascism to Freedom he makes a great point about the verichip and guess what in the eyes of the bankers what better or rather easier way is their to control the human species. Wow if this doesn’t bring up the words of Dostoevsky…

   “Why hast Thou come now to hinder us? … We are working not with Thee but with him {Satan}…We took from him what Thou didst reject with scorn, that last gift he offered Thee, showing you all the kingdoms of the earth. We took from him Rome and the sword of Caesar, and proclaimed ourselves sole rulers of the earth…We shall triumph and shall be Caesar’s, and then we shall plan the universal happiness of man…Hadst thou accepted that last counsel of the mighty spirit {Satan}, Thou wouldst have accomplished all that man seeks on earth- that is, someone to worship …Who can rule men if not he who holds their conscience and their bread in their hands?” {ibid pg 137-138}

   their conscience and their bread people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   Now does that sound familiar to what is happening.

   Wow we need a new and better dialectic and quickly and the only place I believe that is to be found is in the words of Christ Jesus!!! “DO NOT BE DECEIVED”

   Cheers

   Jerry Lesac

   O by the way I think our dear Catherine has got it right about attending a permaculture conference.
   I WANT TO LEARN HOW TO FARM AND QUICKLY!

10. @ Bert and @ Jerry: You both are hitting the nail on the head…the top down power structure (both behind the scenes and in front ) has seized such an inordinate amount of the wealth of the world that with their bringing about a singular creation by implimenting a NWO solution to all the global problems ( and since they perpetuated them in the first place) the few well placed elite will capture all the means of industrial production, transportation, energy and food production, medical care, intellectual and artistic creativity that has been distributed, though unevenly, throughout history into the hands of fewer and fewer corporations…IMHO leaving the vast majority of earth’s inhabitants in dire straits for generations to come. Clearly, the condition of Gaia is also in dire straits…carry on the conversation…much appreciated, Richard(theoldwiseman)

11. Also Jerry, you raise an excellent point when you say:

    “Okay so there version of climate change then has replaced the previous dialectic of Hiroshima and Nagaski?”

    It seems to me that the “Nuclear destruction” (destroyed world vs. acquiescence to elite will) & the “Cold War” (USSR vs USA) dialectics are being replaced with the “Humanity vs. The Planet” dialectic. But I’d also say that the “One World vs. No World dialectic” is still in place, however, the techniques by which this “No World” option will eventuate have been modified.

    Does this make sense? I look forward to others thoughts, as I’m simply thinking this through as I type.

12. Jerry, you’re one sharp dude or dudette 🙂

    I’m going to save these…. some I have, but others I do not. This is a great collection. May I add another?

    “One World or None, A Report to the Public on the Full Meaning of the Atomic Bomb”
    Federation of American Scientists (including Einstein, Oppenheimer, et. al.)
    Published in 1946, just months after atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
    http://www.amazon.com/One-World-None-Report-Meaning/dp/1595582274

    It is my opinion that the atomic bombs were dropped primarily to establish the dialectic articulated in this report.

    Perhaps it is time for humanity to define the dialectics that we live by.

    I hope people here are reading this and taking this in. This is incredibly important.

13. Dear Bert

    You know i just had another thought too and that is maybe the CoR people and their emphasis on climate change has something to do with the cold war and all of the nuclear testing that was going on. Take as an example the Russian nuclear blast of October 23/1961 and how the shock wave was reported to have encircled the earth some three times. The scientists must have been sweating bullitts which led to the emphasis that it could damage or was damaging the atmosphere and that moreover was why such testing was moved below ground. Remember M.A.D. Even moving it below ground though wasn’t of much help given the earthquakes that accompanied such events and even of mountain tops {volcanoes} blowing their lids off. Look it can’t be a coincidence that is what we are now seeing after the North Korean testing! So everything is not a conspiracy but apparently some may be of the opinion that is exactly what is needed and what is the word we are hearing? CONTROL!
    Whatever the case though my bent is not on the scientific reasons for climate change but on the biblical and you know maybe what Rome and its clubs need is what you fear and that is a climate that never changes hence the words…

    “When I shoot at you with my deadly and destructive arrows of famine, I will shoot to destroy you. I will bring more and more famine upon you and cut off your supply of food. I will send famine and wild beasts against you, and they will leave you childless. Plague and bloodshed will sweep through you, and I will bring the sword against you. I the Lord have spoken.” {Ezekiel 5:16}

    “I also withheld rain from you when the harvest was still three months away. I sent rain on one town, but withheld it from another. One field had rain; another had none and dried up. People staggered from town to town for water but did not get enough to drink, yet you have not returned to me, declares the Lord.
    Many times I struck your gardens and vineyards, I struck them with blight and mildew. Locusts devoured your fig and olive trees, yet you have not returned to me, declares the Lord.
    I sent plagues among you as I did to Egypt. I killed your young men with the sword, along with your captured horses. I filled his nostrils with the stench of your camps, yet you have not returned to me, declares the Lord.
    I overthrew some of you as I overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. You were like a burning stick snatched from the fire, yet you have not returned to me, declares the Lord. {Amos 4: 7-11}

    “The word of the Lord came to me, Son of man, if a country sins against me by being unfaithful and I stretch out my hand against it to cut off its food supply and send famine upon it and kill its men and their animals, even if these three men Noah, Daniel and Job were in it, they could save only themselves by their righteousness, declares the Sovereign Lord.” {Ezekiel 14: 12-14}

    Now if these don’t suffice well then maybe the scientific would…

    “In the Middle East, a ~200 year drought forced the abandonment of agricultural settlements in the Levant and northern Mesopotamia. The subsequent return to moister conditions in Mesopotamia promoted settlement of the Tigris-Euphrates alluvial plain and delta, where breachable river levees and seasonal basins may have encouraged early Mesopotamia irrigation agriculture. By 3500 B.C. urban Late Urak society flourished in southern Mesopotamia, sustained by a system of high yield cereal irrigation agriculture with efficient canal transport. Late Urak “colony” settlements were founded across the dry-farming portions of the Near East. But these colonies and the expansion of Late Urak society collapsed suddenly at about 3200 to 3500 B.C. Archaeologists have puzzled over this collapse for the past 30 years. Now there are hints in the paleoclimatic record that it may be related to a short {less than 200 year} but severe drought.” {pg. 610 Science}

    Cheers

    Jerry

14. O just one more voice to add to all the others above…

    “For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.” — From Rockefeller’s “Memoirs”, (p.405). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Rockefeller

15. Bert

    Okay so there version of climate change then has replaced the previous dialectic of Hiroshima and Nagaski? …

    Harold Urey: “The only escape from total destruction of civilization will be a world government, or we will perish in a war of the atom.” {pg. 97 Cantelon}

    Robert J. Oppenheimer: “In the field of atomic energy, there must be set up a world power.” {ibid}

    Arthur Compton: “World government has become inevitable.” {ibid}

    Dr. Ralph Barton Perry of Harvard: “One world Government is in the making. Whether we like it or not, we are moving toward a one-world government.” {ibid}

    Professor Hocking: “Therefore the alternative is that we rest all political power in one agency and resign that power ourselves.” {ibid}

    Raymond Swing to Albert Einstein: “Either we will find a way to establish world government, or we will perish in a war of the atom.” {ibid pg. 132}

    Albert Einstein: “The secret of the bomb should be committed to a world government, and the USA should immediately announce its readiness to give it to a world government.” {ibid}

    Professor Laski of Oxford, England: “Sovereignty must go, that means also the interests which sovereignty protects must be recognized as outmoded in character and dangerous in operation.” {ibid pg. 133}

    James Warburg, February 17, 1950 before the U.S. Senate said: “We shall have a world government whether or not we like it. The only question is, whether world government will be achieved by conquest or consent.” {ibid pg. 62}

    Dr. Charles Merriam, University of Chicago…
    “I raise my voice to warn- human liberty may be lost.” {ibid pg. 138}

    “It is necessary to discover a head capable of directing it, endowed with an intelligence surpassing the most elevated human level.” H. G. Wells {ibid pg. 136}

    ”Let that man be a military man or a layman, it matters not.”
    Paul Henry Spaak, first president of the Council of Europe, planner of the European Common Market, president of the United Nations General Assembly, and one time Secretary-General of NATO {ibid pg.133-134}

    “Strong, one-man civilian control of America’s giant military establishment is vital to the nation’s well being. The concentration of authority is inevitable.” Roswell Gilpatrick, Deputy Secretary of Defense {ibid pg. 134}

    And even Dr. Carroll Quigley…

    “I know of the operations of this network because I studied it for twenty years, and was permitted for two years in the early 1960’s to examine its papers and its secret records. I have no aversion to it, nor to most of its aims, and have for much of my life been close to it, and many of its instruments.” {pg. 64 Cantelon}

    “He says in effect, that now it is too late for the little people to turn back the tide. In a spirit of kindness, he is therefore urging them not to fight a power that is already established. All through his book, Dr. Quigley assures us that we can trust these benevolent well-meaning men who are secretly operating behind the scenes. They he declares are the hope of the world. All who resist them represent tragedy hence the title of his book.” {ibid}

16. Jerry,

    But Al Gore and the Club of Rome (CoR) already knew when they published the First Global Revolution in 1991. I guess $39 of the $40 Billion has been spent on propaganda to convince the public that the Club of Rome is right.

    This is a “Must Bee” project, so cost is irrelevant, as they need to set the stage for how humanity engages the planet in order for the next global dialectic to work. They cannot fail with this, or the entire plan fails.

    As the CoR likes to say, “nature abhors a vacuum,” and humanity must not be given a vacuum, for in the next dialectic, “humanity” must bee “the enemy.”

    Are folks here grasping just how crazy this stuff is. I mean, I would have never believed it if I hadn’t read it with my own two eyes from their own documents.

17. Bert

    40 billion dollars Bert and counting!!! is what has been spent on trying to understand what is happening to the worlds weather. Can you believe that!

    Cheers

    Jerry Lesac

18. Somebody let me know when the Climate STOPS changing, because that is the time to be concerned. And quite frankly, I don’t know how we’ll even know, because I can’t imagine a time where we’ll ever be able to simultaneously monitor every x,y & z coordinate in the earth’s atmosphere and develop a relevant and accurate time-relative model.

    Ugh, this Global Warming fraud is one of the greatest crimes ever perpetrated on humanity, and the consequences of this false belief have ramifications beyond comprehension. It is the grand daddy of all manufactured dialectics.

    As Maurice Strong once said in an alcohol induced moment, once it’s all over you are going to wish you had the rights of a tree.

19. One of the most startling things to come from the world of science has been the discovery that climate change is not something unique to just our own day and age. Rather it has been ongoing for thousands of years…

    “Climate during the past 11,000 years was long believed to have been uneventful, but paleoclimatic records increasingly demonstrate climatic instability. Mulitdecadel-to multicentury-length droughts started abruptly, were unprecedented in the experience of the existing societies, and were highly disruptive to their agricultural foundations because social and technological innovations were not available to counter the rapidity, amplitude, and duration of changing climatic conditions.” {pg. 610 Science}

    Now why would that be? Well maybe it has something to do with these words…

    “Rain will come in torrents, and I will send hailstones hurtling down and violent winds will burst forth… In my wrath I will unleash a violent wind, and in my anger hailstones and torrents of rain will fall with destructive fury.” {Ezekiel 13: 8-13}

    “When He thunders, the waters in the heavens roar; He makes clouds rise from the ends of the earth. He sends lightning with the rain and brings out the wind from His storehouses.” {Jeremiah 51:16}

    “The Lord will cause men to hear His majestic voice and will make them see His arm coming down with raging anger and consuming fire, with cloudburst, thunderstorm and hail.” {Isaiah 30:30}

    One of the most telling of all though surely has to be this from the book of Job…

    “God’s voice thunders in marvelous ways, he does great things beyond our understanding. He says to the snow, ‘Fall on the earth, and to the rain shower, be a mighty downpour.’ So that all men may know his work, he stops everyman from his labor. The animals take cover; they remain in their dens. The tempest comes out from its chamber, the cold from the driving winds. The breath of God produces ice and the broad waters become frozen. He loads the clouds with moisture he scatters his lightning through them. At his direction they swirl around over the face of the whole earth to do whatever he commands them. He brings the clouds to punish men or to water his earth and show his love.” {Job 37:5-13}

    When science says that they don’t understand “certain abrupt meteorological events” that pop up now and then the answer can be found simply enough in these words! So as usual “everything is written” as Jesus said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Cheers

    Jerry Lesac

20. Whatever you do, Rasmussen, don’t ask the publc whether they’ve read the Club of Rome’s First Global Revolution, where this idea of the “threat of global warming” was first manufactured. And certainly don’t let the public know that it was Al Gore who hosted the 1989 Club of Rome meeting in DC, only a year or so before the First Global Revolution was published.

    “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”

    Chapter V – The Vacuum
    First Global Revolution
    Club of Rome (1991)
    http://www.archive.org/details/TheFirstGlobalRevolution

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