The Emerging Multipolar World with the Saker – US-Russian Relations & the War Lobby

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1. While Trump is clearly a proficient student of Sun Tzu and “The Art of War,” and a man of much greater spiritual and intellectual depth than his enemies in the MSM give him credit for, he is at the end of the day the front man for America First. By that, I do not mean to denigrate the man, nor his achievements. Quite the opposite, in fact. The Trump administration is a powerful and under-estimated force for change.

   Nothing is what it seems.

   The USSR did win WWII in Europe in that it brought fighting to a close by capturing Berlin; but its losses during the conflict were colossal. Perhaps it has still not recovered? The winners of the peace, however, were the Nazis.

   To paraphrase a couple of well-known sayings/quotations, history is a set of lies that the winners of wars have agreed upon. This is no less true, unfortunately, of the two world wars of the twentieth century, which can be seen in many ways as the same war in two parts: the successful toppling by America of the European empires.

   WWI was fomented by the British in an attempt to cement the supremacy of the British Empire over the German Empire, which had grown strong very quickly after German Unification in 1871. The British Empire survived, but not for long, and not without the might at its side of the US, who saw a British victory and the dissolution of all Continental empires in Europe (including Germany, Russia, Turkey and Austria-Hungary) as better than the threat of a Russo-German imperial axis (of evil?!).

   WWII was fomented by the USA, who funded the Nazis to fight a proxy war against the British Empire, which the USA wanted to topple. The Nazis were happy to accept American money and the German economy burst back to vigorous life in the 1930s. However, in the (German) ruling dynasty of the British Empire – and specifically in the person of the Duke of Windsor (who had abdicated as Edward VIII in 1936), the Nazis saw an ally rather than an enemy.

   In May, 1941, twenty months after Britain declared war on Germany, the Nazis betrayed the USA when Rudolf Hess flew himself to the UK to sue for peace with the draft of a treaty in his briefcase. Until this point, the US had shown no inclination to come to the aid of Britain, its closest European ally, by entering the war.

   However, only 11 days after Hess’s flight, the US merchantman SS Robin Moor was sunk in what was probably a false flag attack. There were no casualties, but Roosevelt declared a national emergency and set course for war just a few months after having officially promised never to do so.

   The following month, instead of invading Britain, Hitler launched Operation Barberossa against the USSR; and, in response to the Japanese occupation of French Indochina, Roosevelt ordered the seizure of all Japanese assets in the US. On 1st August, the US announced its oil embargo against Japan, because of its occupation of Saigon. Four months later, Roosevelt allowed Pearl harbour to fall victim to the Japanese attack, giving the US a pretext to enter the war on the side of the British in an attempt to prevent the unification of Germany and Russia, as they had done before in WWI.

   With their advance from the west held up in the Ardennes at Christmas 1944, and with the Soviets making good progress towards Berlin from the east, the allies saw a danger of the Soviets taking control of Germany and came to an accommodation with the Nazis to prevent this. The war in Europe ended. The Americans had, however, succeeded in bringing the British Empire to its knees after all; but perhaps the last laugh was had by the Nazis, who quickly re-established themselves after the war in Argentina and the USA (and Antarctica?).

   Perhaps Trump and Sun Tzu will be able finally to kick them out?

   Today, is it helpful to think in terms of the US having more in common with Russia than with China? Does the US have to team up with somebody against anybody? Isn’t divide and rule the enemy’s game? Are we not all the same, ultimately all the same consciousness and should we not be forming the unbreakable intent to live in harmony with all creation through infinite love? Change has to start with each of us individually. If we change ourselves, we can change the banks. The Garden of Eden was about that knowledge, that while shepherds need sheep, sheep don’t need shepherds.
   Namaste.

   1. Very interesting, Peter. I have always assumed that the lead investors behind the British Empire – and the Anglo American alliance – were in sync during WWII. It was not US vs. Brits. The Special relationship was in alignment. Clearly the US power within the alliance rose and remained independence of the alliance. Would value discussing further.

2. Once again, excellent interview with The Saker. Thank you.

   1. So glad you liked it. Quite remarkable the issues avoided in the debates and discussion of the mid-term elections.

3. Catherine,

   I absolutely agree and believe that there’s a leadership that’s is more pro-human vs pro-empire. This belief parallels Dark Journalist’s research on the X series. It is the battle of the the mystery schools, one Ahrmanic and the other not.

   If the pro-human leadership wins the unsung hero will be General Kelley. Trump can not do it without him. It could move me to tears thinking about the kind of valor and bravery that man has and his fight for a pro-human civilization. There’s a reason why every press conference Trump has a journalist asks will General Kelley step down? Why? why are they constantly asking that question?

   1. I sgree. We need to pray for General Kelly.

4. Honestly, I see US hostilities with Russia as being more like Sgt. Slaughter vs. Nikolai Volkoff. In reality they each understand their rivalry as the attraction while also understanding that their survival is based upon it, to take up @Najat Madry’s professional wrestling metaphor. Accordingly, they constantly each provoke one another and that gets the base revved up.

   Let’s face it, even though Nazi technology went east and west at the close of WWII, there has never been a real cessation of technological exchange between the US and its supposed Soviet enemy, whether truck factories, tank technology, nuclear weapons, submarines, rockets, computers and broadcasting. We’re the wind beneath one another’s wings.

   1. Yup. That is what I think. Saker takes it more seriously.

      1. Well, he has some understandable resentments of the West, given The Rape of Russia. On the other hand, I kind of bristle at the notion that the USSR won the war. Without a doubt their losses were staggering, but their geography itself played a significant role in overstretching the Nazi war machine. On the Western Front, Germany was able to utilize existing developed transport infrastructure to build powerful defensive fortifications and supply fresh troops and munitions to fight more effectively. At the end of the day, victory was a joint effort, and the USA proved the indispensable nation; who else would or could have handled Japan? As with all history, we are where we are now, not where our forebears were then. We have more in common with Russia than China, and we’ll be teaming up to thwart China’s global ambitions. Bank on it. Like the banks will.

         1. Yes, I agree that we were the indispensable nation given size and manufacturing capability. However US interests were on both sides of the war – financing and helping the Nazis. It was the Russians who committed fully to their defeat and paid with their lives. The irony is that the Russians paid such an incredible price to put the Anglo American alliance on top. Remember – it was the Anglo American alliance who was vested in destroying and occupying Germany. They could have ended the war much, much sooner. And stopped if from happening if they had not financed Hitler. If you have not read Trading with the Enemy, strongly recommend.

            1. While I am sure Molotov was ambiguous towards the Reich for his own purposes, in truth the Russians as much as Neville Chamberlain infamously did, abetted early Nazi aggression with disastrous results, indeed engaging in duplicitous diplomacy until the last. It was, to be sure, an existential battle for the USSR, and its people pulled out the stops such as has hardly been seen in history. Still, the story is not an orthodoxy of virtue written in black and white as might be popularly believed, and the atrocities of Stalin were every bit the rival of Hitler’s, lacking only the same degree of coverage.

            2. Absolutely. The Russian history is long and ugly. If you have not listened to Ann Williams, it would not surprise me if the Rape of Russia killed as many as Leningrad etc. I confess to struggling why you think I am portraying the Russians as all good. They protected there turf.

         2. Good points.

         3. It is not my intent to be argumentative—just to point out that governments have these problems of scale and duration that make their virtue a mixed bag—same with people individually. In spite of having grown up in the Cold War and being thoroughly immersed in our own myths, I found it difficult to picture the USSR in its vastness and seeming poverty to be utterly evil at the individual level, perhaps because of what I had heard of my ancestry and seen of my Slavic relatives—warm, smart, creative people. I tend to think Russia is better as an ally than an antagonist. Some of our ‘friends’ are less favorable, in my view.

            1. My guess without having ever been to Russia and having limited experience with the Russians is that the divide here is related to Christianity – for members of the Russian Orthodox Church who really strive to practice the teachings of Christ – we have a great deal in common. The world is dividing into cultures that believe in and seek spiritual consciousness who are capable of transforming at spiritual warefare and hypermaterialists happy to implement transhumanism who will always be victims of spiritual warfare.

5. Sharing
   Excellent point of the Russian Pension fund reform & military connection. Another reason there is pressure for pension reform may be America becoming an energy exporter. Notice oil has dropped $10 in the last 6 weeks.
   Spiritual warfare. IMHO God desires a relationship with man and to have the freedom of having choice is foundational for that communication between God and man. Our choices shape who we are, every decision contributes to our moral development of our character.
   When there is an absence of choice there is no character. No choice one becomes a robot without question(s). Yes, people are waking up and realizing technology makes living more comfortable but at the same time enslaves thus losing the relationship with God. Garden of Eden was not about a fruit, but of choice.
   Seems to be monkey business in Georgia, Florida & Arizona with the voting tabulations.

   1. Whatever is going on the squeeze on retirement and pension funds is happening across the globe. All governments assuming that the older generation is expendable. Ugly picture. I used to have a friend who would say that to live well you want to be young in America, middle aged in Europe and old in China. No more!

6. SWIFT has cut Iran payments: closing the stable door after the horse has bolted…

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