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“There has been a revolution in how we perceive the body. What appears to be an object, a three-dimensional anatomical structure, is actually a process, a constant flow of energy and information.”
~ Deepak Chopra
By Catherine Austin Fitts
Dr. Tom Cowan has spent a lifetime trying to understand the human mind and body and teach people how to be healthy. He is well known for his excellent books on heart health and the role of water in our bodies.
Tom joined me on the Solari Report in June 2020 to discuss the fallacies of germ theory. As a founding board member and supporter of the Weston A. Price Foundation (WAPF), Tom co-authored The Contagion Myth with WAPF founder and president Sally Fallon Morell, who also joined us on the Solari Report at the time of the book’s publication in September 2020.
The topics addressed by Tom and Sally are important, as our history is filled with one virus fraud after another—frauds used to justify or cover up all manner of poisonings and financial frauds. As I see it, virus frauds are, among other reasons, stealth tools that central bankers use to engineer deflation and centralize ownership of assets without having to raise interest rates so high that they inspire mobs with pitchforks to come after them. They also raise important questions on the mysterious ingredients in pharmaceuticals and what they have to do with transhumanism and the smart grid.
When I was in Knoxville at the excellent Weston A. Price Foundation conference last fall, Tom’s wonderful son Asher, who runs their Dr. Cowan’s Garden business, engaged with me in open discussion at our Solari gathering about whether viruses exist and whether settling that debate is a good use of our time and resources.
When I first investigated the issue, I listened to Tom and Jon Rappoport argue that viruses don’t exist. I also listened to numerous doctors and scientists for whom I have the greatest respect argue that they do. At the time, I concluded two things—first, that to study and get to the bottom of the debate sufficient to form an independent educated opinion would take me a great deal of time, and second, that doing so would not be a good use of my time. I decided to focus on bringing transparency to what I call the “great poisoning,” including virus frauds (which can occur whether viruses exist or not), highlighting their relationship to the financial system and the governance system that engineers them, and working to prevent the control grid from maturing into a slavery system. I preferred to spend my time helping people resist the conversion of the financial system into a control grid.
Meanwhile, Tom and I continued our conversation online, and he now joins me again on the Solari Report to keep the discussion going. Tom believes passionately that viruses do not exist and is convinced that bringing transparency to that fact will decimate the virus frauds and the push for central control. As a tactical matter, I do not agree.
Where we do agree is that the virus debate is part of a much bigger issue. At this time, when efforts to integrate numerous systems and “harvest” the human body in entirely new ways are accelerating—including proposals to launch CBDCs and link them to the human body as a “battery”—we urgently need a paradigm that recognizes our body as both physical and electromagnetic. After Tom and I concluded our discussion, I decided to ask Ulrike Granögger to join me for our discussion of “The Economy of the Energy Body” to provide critical background on some of these issues. Given the enthusiastic subscriber response to that interview, it seems that many understand the importance of this topic.
In short, Tom and I both agree that significant breakthroughs in our understanding of our electromagnetic body are desperately needed and can serve the dual causes of personal health and freedom. That said, as you will see in our interview, our debate about tactics continues—respectfully anchored in our mutual love of free speech.
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Related Solari Reports:
Book Review: Human Heart, Cosmic Heart – By Thomas Cowan MD
Book Review: Cancer and the New Biology of Water by Thomas Cowan, MD
The Fallacies of Germ Theory with Dr. Thomas Cowan
The Contagion Myth with Sally Fallon Morell
The Economy of the Energy Body with Ulrike Granögger
Related Reading:
- Dr. Tom Cowan
- Dr. Cowan’s Garden
- Asher Cowan
- Book Review: Virus Mania by Torsten Engelbrecht & Claus Köhnlein
- Book Review: The Moth in the Iron Lung by Forrest Maready
- Book Review: The Field: The Quest for the Secret Force of the Universe
- The Rebirth of Nature with Rupert Sheldrake
Ugly interview. I was surprised that the guest was not allowed to present his information. What happened here?
I am glad Catherine took a sceptical stance on Dr. Cowan’s theories although it was frustrating at times when they were arguing about things they were actually agreeing on. Somehow the interview didn’t quite flow like all other Solari interviews I’ve listened to. I’m a long way off being persuaded by the viruses don’t exist theory but Dr Cowan did a good job at explaining the serious short comings of the “science” behind germ theory. I also don’t fully agree with Catherine that the argument isn’t important when vaccines are being used as a weapon against the people and this has been planned for many decades and is a particularly important tool for the transhumanism programme. Germ theory may also be used to control the food supply as has been seen with BSE, FMD and now H5N1.
What would be great would be for Catherine to chair a debate between one of her MD friends who believe in Germ Theory with a proponent on terrain theory such as Dr Sam Bailey or Roman Bystrianyk. How about Malone, McCullough, Yeadon, Bystrianyk, Bailey and Cowan in the ring?
Catherine, I appreciate you showing you are on your mission & your tenacity to stay the course.
Even though the interview provided differences of opinion that were not as coherent as we are familiar with, I really appreciate Tom’s point of view that maybe these things don’t exist.The thought never occurred to me that we do not have an immune system or that viruses don’t exist.
Regardless of what the truth is, is it always good to question our thoughts and we perceive to be reality.
Thank you for providing another way to look at the world.
Catherine and Dr. Tom, both my husband and I find that we’ve got Vagus nerve or CNS autonomic disruptions, like irregular or skipped heartbeats, or weak and faint feelings with temperature and blood pressure changes. This is worse at night. Often, we wake to all silver skies or a mix of silver with wide swaths of HAARPed trails and know “they” have been busy while we sleep. We are wondering if your research has revealed that not just thoughts/impulses but physical changes like I’ve described can be conveyed to us now? We understand that we are energetic beings, with the physical body simply being the most dense of our bodies, but until now hadn’t considered that ALL of these bodies could be intentionally impaired or altered. Your thoughts? Thank you. (Catherine I wonder if Ulrike might also want to weigh in on this?)
You may consider doing a free experiment. Your issue may be closer to your bed than up in the air. For a week, turn off the circuit breaker(s) that powers your bedroom, especially the outlets behind your bed before going to sleep. Also turn off all cell phones and leave them in the car and turn the wifi off. For me, the improvement in sleep was incredible. I am sensitive to it, but I have noticed it with my children as well. Good luck!
Sorry, didn’t see your reply until now. Thank you for your thoughts about this! You bring up a good point for those unaware of EMFs. I happen to be EMF sensitive, so have no cellphone, turn off most all of the power in the home at night to include power to the router, and live in a home that has been EMF proofed in every way possible. That’s why in our case, we could eliminate EMFs as well as coincidentally, poisoning from our food and our water supply. We get food from local ranchers and farmers or grow it ourselves. We have a Rife machine going in order to fill our environment with healing frequencies. We meditate, live a prayerful life, allow only heart-based well-intentioned friends into our lives, and so many other things to address mind, body, and spirit.
We’re quite sure there is a correlation between the parasympathetic response and the chemtrail/HAARP activity as we live on a mountain side and watch the panoramic view of the horizon, particularly when we first get up and look to the Northern sky. We used to have a ranch 60 miles North, and although one would think the rural areas would be skipped, we found it to have the most intense geo-engineering we’d ever seen. So that’s the sky we’re looking out at as it typically drifts down from the North and we see this when we rise in the morning, assessing whether or not it was “busy up there” during the night.
Bottom line: On “normal cloud” days we don’t have the parasympathetic breakdowns like the “silver sky” and the “angel wings all in a row” days.
I think Catherine, you are either under estimate yourself and ability to grasp the system Tom is trying to flesh out, or something about it threatens a belief.
I listen to Tom and others along his terrain theory lines, and others in the “Health Freedom” camp. I think it Tom’s findings and explanations align perfectly with what Solari is trying to do. The enslavement of man is the truth underpinning it all.
Our intelligence is manipulated with medical “science,” just as it is with economic manipulations.
There is no way to protect oneself from the Great Poisoning unless you know what isn’t true or proven…and there is much devious lying going on in “Virology.” Poisoning of the body and MIND.
You mentioned recently you have started learning about Dr Joe Dispenza’s work. This may perhaps help make sense of this.
I feel grateful to know that fraud exists in medicine, right down to the lack of evidence of virus/viral contagion. It HAS changed how I get out of the control grid, because how I view my health and WHAT can or cant be done to me DOES empower me just knowing HOW value (assets) can get taken and save and secured.
Virology is mind control. I hope you have another conversation with Tom.
This is a beautiful post Catherine made in the thread of comments on the interview of Tom Cowan regarding Germ Theory. It rings so true for me for this interview also.
“It is about control and risk management. The invisible enemy works. Unfortunately, it is backed up with mind control which seems to be remarkably effective these days.
“For endless war, you must have an enemy who cannot be caught, who is completely vaporous, therefore necessitating nonstop aggressive emergency measures…. The perfect enemy for a state that seeks endless war and strives forever to pull the wool over the eyes of its own citizens for purposes of endless robbery and implementing slavery where freedom previously existed would be an enemy who cannot, under any circumstances, ever be caught. …In the literal sense, this perfect enemy does not exist, which makes [it] perfect for a society determined to make war, because [it] will never be caught and the war can continue forever. The harder an enemy is to find and defeat, the better it is for those who seek to profit from the staged campaign to destroy that enemy.” ~ John Kaminski, The Perfect Enemy
(Credit to Sofia Smallstorm’s excellent newsletter for bringing this book and quote to our attention) “
We have to disagree. Of course I can follow Tom’s argument. What I can not do without a significant investment of time,is hold my own against a bevy of brilliant scientists who I know and respect TO MY SATISFACTION. And my time is important to me. I choose to invest it in a way that is most valuable and effective in the next week, month, year. I have 100 items in my research parking lot. And this is not high on the list as I think it will make little to no difference tactically. That is a sound strategic decision.
I was really disappointed in how Catherine was responding to Tom in the beginning. He was trying to explain it to her but she seemed bound and determined not to listen, and because she isn’t a ‘scientist’ she was acting like it’s not possible for her to know and understand. But isn’t that the very thinking she is trying to educate people against? LISTEN to what he was saying. It doesn’t matter that other people don’t have the resources around them to learn. Listening to this report would help them too. Also, this subscription is so expensive each year, that how could the basic american even get the information she puts out. They can’t afford HERS either! I thought this was a very good video considering her stubbornness to NOT understand what he was delivering. Quit being so locked down Catherine! Be OPEN and understanding will come. Sorry, I respect Catherine a lot, but this was disappointing to see her behave like that.
I have spent $5,000+ dollars to maintain my membership at Solari over the last decade or so. The most valuable membership I have ever had.
Everyone has to make a choice. Cable TV, or Solari membership. New smart phone, or Solari membership. I dropped tv all together, and have a not so smart phone. Now I have enough for my Solari membership.
My most concrete understandings of anything discussed here at Solari come from reading the books reviewed, or mentioned in passing (listen carefully). I get clues from interviews, and videos, but the real meat, the real understanding of anything comes from taking the time to read.
If I could only read faster!
🙂
Shannon:
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Catherine
What if that which we experience with our senses is evidence of standing electromagnetic waves?
This had to be one of the most unintentionally hilarious interviews ever. I was laughing out loud on a long drive, so thank you. Mostly because your thoughts passed like two ships in the night. I have no idea what to think about this virus debate, but frankly I just want to know what to do to not get sick and to get better if I am, so it’s somewhat of a moot point. Way back in high school (back when they used to teach things…) they taught us what constitutes a life form. Then they taught us about viruses. I said, well those dont seem to meet the requirements of something that’s alive based on what we just learned. I’ve been confused with them ever since. One part of me says Tom is right and all this microbiology mess is sort of like when someone invents an interesting fictional book, like Lord of the Rings, and a bunch of other authors add to the story with their books and it takes on a life of it’s own. Except it’s all just made up. But on the other hand, something is getting folks sick and it’s kind of hard to believe that all these PhD’s are just messing around with nothing for no apparent reason. It seems more of them would figure out that it was nonsense if so.
Catherine, I believe if you research the subject of vaccines and even chemtrails, you’ll find that the poisons are largely electric in nature; i.e., they conduct electricity and/or warp bio-electric fields. the chemtrails are doing massive damage, but nothing works with such effectiveness as an injection.
the great poisoning that you describe is real, but our body’s defences are pretty awesome. in the end, Mr Global needs injections to reach his goal of maiming, death and/or trans-humanism (which is probably turning a person into a soul-less zombie).
Very important insight Gregory. Thank you.
https://drtomcowan.com/blogs/podcasts/37-eileen-mckusick
I was listening to Critically Thinking tonight, a GREAT weekly show on Clouthub (with Dr. Tenpenny and Dr. Lawrence Palevsky). On tonight’s show, Dr. Palevsky stated that for fifteen years, he has not believed that virus’ exist. He went on to explain the reasons why to Dr. Lee Merritt. Things like this give me more reasons why we need to leave the USSA GOV behind and START OVER. I cannot live with this criminal cabal any longer.
Thank you Catherine.
Thank you!
I follow Dr. Cowan and have learned so much from him the past few years. I have found that if you want to find medical books that have meaningful, useful information, you must go back before the 1900’s because everything from our fraud of a gov is misinformation on a grand scale. The natural remedies are wonderful and the old medical books provide so many recipes for cures, etc. No more big pharma for me.
Excellent advice.
Loads of gratitude to you both!
I was able to resolve a serious heart issue after reading Dr. Cowan’s Human Heart Cosmic Heart. In 2019 I read his book and I bought the Strophanthus tincture he recommended to a patient he wrote about from the supplier in Brazil. It was so effective that I am really glad I bought it in bulk at that time. Dr. Cowan is now selling Strophanthus at his site and I am most grateful. I have purchased the tincture at his site as well.
Now that I am doing cold showers I no longer have to take the Strophanthus regularly. If I cannot get a cold shower in for a few days I do take the tincture when and if symptoms return. Cold showers and Strophanthus have been a godsend. Thank you Dr. Cowan!
This is good to know. Thanks, Sandra.
You are very welcome. The heart issue I had/have was very disturbing and I am so happy I found something that works. Well, two things.
I really think it is electrical in nature; as all heart issues seem to be. I am watching the Earthing video. It seems I missed it.
Thank you!
Catherine, let him talk! Then ask questions.
Catherine, what a great dialog with Dr Cowan.. As someone who has been curating expert voices to help me build a more accurate worldview ever since the plandemic kicked off, I’ve been listening to so many amazing people.
Like you, I’m a dot connector and as a Christian (like yourself as well) my worldview has to not only include but make sense within God’s story in scripture and as it is unfolding today.
For understanding Virus and Terrain, Dr Cowan and Dr Andrew Kaufman (looping in Dr Sam Bailey as well) are the best.
For understanding quantum biology and how light plays a critical role in health, the best if not most cantankerous voice is Dr Jack Kruse.
For finance and geopolical, I go to you and Jon Titus.
Others like Greg Hunter bring may great voices to the table, which is where I discovered you in the first place.
For Theology, I go to Dr Michael Heiser, since “The Unseen Realm” book is the best resource, since it absolutely clarifies our status as God’s imagers and representatives and this spiritual battle we are still in to this day. I have to add a second book to this bucket that blew my mind named “The Roots of the Federal Reserve: Tracing the Nephilim from Noah to the US Dollar” by Laura Sanger Ph. D. 100% worth the read.
I only bring this up since as someone who listens to every single Tom Cowan video ( I love him dearly ), Jack Kruse is still the top mind and voice when it comes to quantum biology and the how Electromagnetic forces, along with both natural and non-native light (both visible and invisible) impact our health and biology.. Which then impacts our body’s internal structured water. He is very direct, but he has been digging in this mine of decentralized biology for almost 15 years.. He has been on so many great podcasts as a guest.
My point is that all of these things are connected. The more you learn about quantum biology, the more it makes sense why the CV19 injections do so much damage. The more you know about the false narrative of “virus” the more you see the conspiracy to trick humanity in to taking a “pharmaceutical” to “save you”. The more you learn about this “trans-humanist” agenda, the more you see the effects of the Nephilim at work in our world (aka, your interview with Whitney Webb). Then to understand why anyone would ever be so evil, you read Unseen Realm and it all comes together.
So thank you for allowing God to use you to play such an important role of curating truth and wisdom from the honest and wise among us.
jon:
Thanks for the suggestions. Appreciated.
Wow this was SO worth the full watch! The headbutting was a bit uncomfortable at first but in retrospect I truly value that it took place and my respect for both Catherine and Tom has grown. Chapeau!
On a quick note, Tom mentioned that a perfect circle would not naturally exist in the body. I believe the same has been said about nature where we will not find any perfect geometric shape. Moutains can be triangular, for example, but we wouldn’t find a perfect triangle. Interesting to ponder for sure.
Hi,
For those interesting in getting the book that Dr. Cowan recommended, it is available directly from the publisher. Quite expensive as these are books from an Academic press who primarily sell them to about 300 university libraries around the world.
Harold Hillman: Case for New Paradigms in Cell Biology and in Neurobiology
Edwin Mellen Press – $239.99
https://mellenpress.com/book/Case-for-New-Paradigms-in-Cell-Biology-and-in-Neurobiology/1501/
The table of contents is available here:
https://external.dandelon.com/download/attachments/dandelon/ids/DE006360D706EF5AE818AC1257A360045993C.pdf
An interesting review of the book in the Biochemical Education journal available here:
https://iubmb.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1016/0307-4412%2894%2990064-7
I bit the bullet and ordered 3 weeks ago. Still do not have.
I got a copy of Hillman’s book via inter-library loan. I found it repetitious, but its point is fundamental — that researchers learn little about living systems after they’ve killed and fixed the specimens, and so today’s microbiologists etc foolishly sally forth knowing almost nothing about the internal workings of life at the cellular level. Catherine mentioned that she wanted to read Mae-Wan Ho’s “The Rainbow and the Worm”. Tom much preferred Hlllman’s book. After reading both, The Rainbow is the most thrilling testimony to life. It’s enthralling, easier to read, and persuasively argues for the infinite complexity of life.
Thank you. I went on Amazon to look for the publisher. But this link is so helpful. I will get this book. After listening to this interview, I feel it’s a worthwhile investment.
As a homeopath, the only thing that matters is the patient’s reaction to a stimulus. That’s why so many people can react so differently to the same stimulus. And that’s why you can never treat “disease” systematically.
Diseases aren’t nouns. Diseases are verbs, and you can’t “see” verbs. What you can “see” are nouns moving around in space. Using a materialistic (noun) based paradigm to understand a verb-based phenomenon (energy) will get you exactly where we are now – nowhere without a paddle. It just doesn’t work.
That been said, part of the larger debate is: what is health? The vast majority of people have no idea what health actually is. They think it is the absence of disease, which is NOT true. I’ve worked with so many people who say, “I was in perfect health and then I got XYZ”. When you study their cases in more detail, you can see they were on the XYZ trajectory for years before the diagnosis. They are completely oblivious to the fact that they have been in poor health for years, decades, or even since they were children.
Catherine and Tom,
In vast debt am I to you both; maximal gratitude.
If Rappoport saved the bacon, Cowan saved the whole ranch.
Isolation Masturbation? Invisibility Senility? Where’s Waldo?
who cares so…
is there evidence that sick people make healthy people sick? or not?
and of course this rhetorical question must be faced; else how will it be fixed?
NR
I practice medicine, and I am in the trenches of sickness every day. I stand by the early 20th century work of Royal Raymond Rife and the 21st century work of Drs Judy Mikovitz and Leonard Horowitz. Viruses are absolutely real, and they can be visualized with special microscopes. Viruses have been clandestinely manipulated by the department of defense since the 1950’s, and play a HUGE role in the weaponization of cancer. This idea of “there is no such thing as a virus” falls in line with the same idea as a “flat earth.” It’s simply not true. Viruses emit a an individual frequency that can be detected with a Rife machine or a Zyto scan, then neutralized by using their own frequency against them. Thousands of people are being healed with Spooky2 Rife machines that target viruses. I had to turn this interview off because this guy is part of a growing cult not rooted in reality.
Laurie,the reality is that you do not know that the photographs you describe are actually viruses. They could be exosomes or other extra vesicular matter. Or they could be artifacts. Three conditions must be met to conclude there are viruses. First virions must be isolated and separated from all other genetic material. Secondly the particles need to be shown to be replication competent. Thirdly the particles need to be shown to be pathogenic. None of these conditions have ever been met. Please also be aware the mainstream virology literature cautions researchers not to confuse what are called coronaviruses with exosomes . LOL. If two nano particles share the same morphology the scientific presumption should be they are the same particle.
My volume comment became irrelevant for this interview because I turned it off. I have much respect for both of you. Seems like Jupiter and Mars must have been doing a dance somewhere in your birth chart the day of the interview. The arguing was pointless and off putting. Ultimately, everyone walks their own path and we can’t walk it for them.
Hi Catherine.
I really enjoy listening to you, but you are difficult to hear.
Is it possible you could use a better microphone? It does not matter on what device I listen, with volume at 100% your voice is still quiet. This is not a new issue, but especially pronounced on this interview.
The official narrative is that SARS-Cov-2 was assembled in a computer from nucleotide fragments sequenced from the bodily fluids of a sick person in China. IOW the genome is an in silico guesstimate and not based on an actual particle found in nature. This fact alone powerfully reinforces Tom’ s point that no actual virus was ever truly isolated and shown to exist.Since no virus particle has been isolated the question raised is what is actually in the annual flu shot? We are told attenuated viruses but that requires the isolation of millions of actual viruses.
Despite the mixed comments, I really enjoyed this discussion. I am glad you and your team decided to post this interview despite you and Dr. Cowan not quite agreeing all the time. I find the banter interesting. I actually find this more helpful, because I can try and understand each person’s viewpoint and where they are coming from. Also, you can clearly tell that you both highly respect each other despite disagreeing, and both of you are very intelligent people. Why would you want to hide disagreeing points of view? Disagreeing and giving different perspectives are where learning occurs. It makes all of us think and dig deeper. It’s possible that both of you are right, depending on the lens or viewpoint you are looking at the problem from.
However, I do agree with Dr. Cowan about the importance on the emphasis that viruses do not exist. The great mystery in life is what exactly is real and the truth. We only believe we what we know based on the filter that each of us receives our information through. Each of us has had an infinite number of variables on our “filters”, or who is building our reality, giving us our experiences, and our information on how we perceive the world. The “filters” are our parents & family, our education system, our news, our friends, our personal experiences, books, etc. The combination and perception resulting from these exponential number of different filters working together is infinite. The only way you can start toward truth is to eliminate what is not true. That’s all we ever really know for sure, what is definitely NOT true. I liked that this was his opening argument and theory to go by.
I also understand from your perspective that you want to wake as many people up as fast as you can, with the least amount of side arguments and distractions that would delay or block that objective. Again, depends on the lens that you are looking at the topic through.
Dr. Cowan should team up with Children’s Health Defense to prove that viruses don’t exist in court! He said he can do it! Now THAT would put a damper on the control grid.
Children’s Health Defense would never go for it. there’s a conflict of interest somewhere in CHD with regard to the virus debate. don’t know what it is, but it definitely exists. I suspect it involves financial interests or super egos.
Catherine I have been following you for a while now and I love and trust all of your work, Your thoughts on the no virus issue was a bit difficult for me to hear but we all have our own opinions.
I do want to thank you for doing this interview with Dr. Cowan I see someone who is as passionate for the truth, as I am. I have been studying this information for the past 2 1/2 years and I have no doubt that he is correct. Prior to the plandemic I was always listening to alternative doctors so this was easy for me to see.
If we have been lied to in regards to wether a virus exist or not I want to know. How many vaccines were created because of a “virus” that were not needed? I beleive vaccines are a part of the slow poisoning. Imagine the number of people who would have chosen not to talk this injection if only they new the truth. I do not trust pharmaceuticals at all – I won’t even take an asprin.
This website has compiled some of the best of the best on the no virus topic. http://www.VirusTruth.net/?ref=ll1
Thanks for that. I am convinced that vaccines have been one virus fraud after another.
I couldn’t agree more.
Andrew A. Marino may be of interest. He worked in Dr. Robert O. Becker’s lab and wrote several books on him and more.
ANDREW A. MARINO was born and raised in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and graduated from St. Joseph’s University in 1962 with a major in physics and a minor in philosophy. During 1963–1981 he earned a PhD in biophysics and JD in law from Syracuse University, and worked in the bioelectromagnetics research laboratory at the Veterans Administration Hospital in Syracuse, New York. From 1981 to 2014 he worked in the departments of Orthopedic Surgery, Neurology, and Cellular Biology & Anatomy at the LSU Medical School in Shreveport, Louisiana.
THIS SITE contains a comprehensive collection of articles and other information relating to his systematic studies of the biology and biophysics of natural and man-made electromagnetic energy, and to its medical, sociological, and legal significance. The articles deal with the existence, extent, cellular basis, mechanism of action, and risks to human health caused by human exposure to man-made electromagnetic energy in the human environment, and with the legal implications of the health risks. The articles include reports of the effects of electromagnetic energy on human subjects, animals, tissues, and cells. The reports describe experimental, theoretical, analytical, and mechanistic studies of the interaction of electromagnetic energy with biological systems, and the use of electromagnetic energy for medical purposes.
THIS SITE also contains all of Marino’s articles dealing with his other major research initiatives: biocybernetics in the musculoskeletal system; disease processes including osteoarthritis; ligament repair; sleep and other neurological disorders; stress; cancer; electromagnetic hypersensitivity; and nonlinear analysis of the electroencephalogram for diagnosis of clinical disorders.
https://www.andrewamarino.com/
Electromagnetism
and Life
ROBERT O. BECKER, MD
Department of Orthopedic Surgery
State University of New York
Upstate Medical Center
ANDREW A. MARINO, P HD, JD
Department of Orthopaedic Surgery
Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center
in Shreveport
Cassandra Publishing, Belcher, LA
https://www.andrewamarino.com/PDFs/EandL_preview.pdf
I am having trouble seeing the point of this conversation.
It’s an incoherent mess that goes nowhere, which is strange to see on Solari.
Why invite someone for an interview and dismiss and bulldoze them so vehemently that nothing meaningful is being synthesised?
I respect and love your Mamabear energy, wanting to protect people and standing your ground against bullshit, Catherine, but this isn’t the way to build or learn anything.
When trying to understand the electromagnetic body I suggest speaking to an electrical engineer that has the capability to break down the physics in a meaningful and actionable way. Dan Winter comes to mind, he’s a bit of a mad genius, but an absolute treasure trove when trying to navigate the electromagnetic reality we all are functionally illiterate in.
Here’s a link of a recent interview with him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9tUJuwdsyY
Good to know about Dan Winter. Will check him out. Did you listen to the Economy of the Energy Body. The reason we recorded that and published it first was that the points that I had expected to make in this did not happen. I was not expecting to revisit Tom’s arguments on viruses.
The economy of the energy body was excellent, Ulrike and your Self did an amazing job in providing an overview that doesn’t end up with the unicorns or dissociates, but there is plenty of room for further and serious inquiry which I deem necessary. Engaging with these subjects coheres the map of reality and meaning beautifully but drastically for some, which can be overwhelming, especially if reality until 2020 worked fine and reliably. It’s the cruel beauty of rough times, anything that can’t take pressure, simply will be composted.There are however plenty of competent people around who can navigate the study of this field, but who often won’t advertise themselves, care about credentials or debates. Anything that is not grounded enough in a solution based approach, is not the best use of time and resources, I would agree with you in that entirely.
I am just reading Resurrecting the Mysterious – two of Ingo Swann’s manuscripts published after his death with the help of Nick Cook. Many insights on this issue.
Oh, Ingo Swann is good fun! He could see the wild things going in the aura between couples during arousal, growing to enormous and colourful shapes and he called it ”sexual regalia”, a hilarious read. Made me want to double down on auric hygiene, too. 🙂
Catherine and Tom were travelling on two different sets of train tracks for much of the conversation. They were talking about different things but weren’t aware that they were talking about different things.
Catherine is also familiar with several ‘super smart’ scientists and doctors who insist that viruses exist, so to be arguing with someone like Tom on the subject of the existence of any virus particle is extremely inconvenient and uncomfortable for Catherine. to be jabbed or not to be jabbed splintered numerous families and friendships. the virus debate will do the same.
Just had a chance to read all the comments. Very much appreciate the discussion. I am reading a fascinating new book. Ingo Swann’s sister and niece gave author and reporter Nick Cook two of Swann’s manuscript to organize and publish – It is called Resurrecting the Mysterious. It is an exploration of the invisible realms of our reality. It starts with a quote. It is attributed to an Ancient Sanskrit Prayer….”LORD, lead me from the unreal to the real….”
Indeed one of our family’s favorite prayers. You can find an audio recording here:
https://www.csecenter.org/Ellen-Grace-OBrian/Prayers-and-Mantras
PRAYER FOR REALIZING TRUTH (audio link)
om asato ma sad gamaya
tamaso ma jyotir gamaya
mrtyor ma amrtam gamaya
om, shanti, shanti, shanti
Oh Lord, lead us from the unreal to the Real.
Lead us from the darkness of ignorance to the light of Truth.
Lead us from the error of identifying
with the mortal body and mind to the
realization of our divine immortal Self.
What a beautiful prayer.
Susan, thank you for this. I played the audio file and nearly went “external” hearing it being sung in sanskrit. Root and crown blew open. Namaste.
He is saying “the heart is not a pump” and from there I had to turn it off. I do think that there are many many different perspectives out there and I am awfully open to most of them, however this is just a bridge too far for me. But continue to bring alternative viewpoints! That’s important and eventually we will find the truth………. although not always black and white. THANKS!
I heard an interview with Zach Bush, MD, on Mercola some years ago about the heart not being a pump. It was quite fascinating. The boomer generation is being led into many heart procedures and joint replacement surgeries which I suspect is mostly marketing. I’d like to learn more on these subjects so as not to be taken in by Rockefeller medicine.
the heart is *not* a pump. there is no way that a pump could push blood through the thousands of miles of arteries, veins and capillaries in our bodies.
rather, the heart has a special shape, a chestahedron, designed to thrust the blood into a vortex. this in turn energises the blood which then travels through the body under its own power with additional energy converted from infrared light when needed. to understand this, you need to read about structured and energised water from someone who truly understands water such as Viktor Schauberger, Rudolf Steiner or Gerald Pollack.
much of today’s common science and biology is fake. we’ve been programmed to not see the truth of who or what we are.
Well pump or not, if that joker quits beating you’re not going to be alive much longer.
Have you read Dr. Cowan’s book on the heart?
I first read Dr. C’s book on the heart, but was not enough to light the bulb on his thinking. It wasn’t until I read Living Energies, by Callum Coats, that it all began to make sense. Then a couple other books on water.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1036761.Living_Energies
Hmmm. Why is the the distinction between viruses and other tiny particles important? Consider this: when our computers malfunction, we say they have a virus. When a video on social media becomes popular quickly, we say it went viral. Not germal, not bacterial. Consider the scores of movies featuring viruses as an existential threat: The Andromeda Strain (1971); Outbreak (1995); The Day After Tomorrow (2004); I Am Legend (2007); Quarantine (2008) – and that’s just a tiny sampling. Pandemic movies are ubiquitous now, a mainstay of popular entertainment. In the most popular zombie series ever, The Walking Dead, the zombies got that way because of a virus; everyone has it and there ain’t nothing anyone can do about it. I’ve lost track of how many times a virus came through the Stargate in SG-1 or invaded one of the Star Trek vessels. I could go on; but in short, “viruses” are anything and everything: they are tiny, they are huge; they replicate and multiply; they mutate and insinuate. Yet, when have you ever seen a feature film about someone’s dental carie exploding out of their skull and causing mass extinction? Bacteria just ain’t that scary. Viruses, well, they are a mindworm conjured up to create fear. Not only do they make us sick, but they bring out the worst in humanity as we fight one another over scare resources in their wake or shut the door on others seeking refuge. And it works because most of us have no idea what they really are and what they are capable of. To reduce them to exosomes would be to collapse a decades-old narrative that has captured the hearts and minds of humanity. How to communicate that information? I guess that’s the $64,000 question. But I do think Cowan, et al, are on the right track.
I’m thinking along the same lines. I remember watching the Andromeda Strain as a child and being so frightened. Then high school biology where we were told viruses inject their DNA into our cells, use the cell to replicate themselves and overwhelm us. That was horrifying. So many were panicked over covid. Common sense and years of observation should have informed us but didn’t. I think questioning the virus theory is as important as the Federal Reserve but so many seem to prefer living in the story, they won’t question either subject. As the lies fall away I’ve gotten much better at knowing my path.
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Catherine, I think Tom’s efforts are important in helping people realize that the current health paradigm is patently false. Once people shed all the falsehoods about human biology, the truth will be the last man standing.
Good point. All people searching for truth in my book inspire gratitude.
Dear Catherine,
I just watched Privacy Action Plan and realized that I am in the process of being scammed. It started full time in 2019 and I can see now how it was set up. The whole idea was to get me compliant and pretend to be a friend to me (which is odd but if they have the power there is nothing I can do) and at the same time lie to me and disappoint me and make life hell.
Lately I asked my banker in Canada to send all my money to me in Iowa because I was worried about Trudeau. I intended to buy gold from Franklin. Now it’s the scam part. Whoever did this to me for so long wants all my savings, has had me buy a lot of supplements to convince me I’m not well while at the same time ruining my functioning at work. If they can ruin that and school because I am on a student visa then they can take me out of here because I have nowhere to go and no relatives or close friends. They have been doing this and suicide walks a lot, in 2019/2020. but they/he
has got me where he wants me now. He did something to me to make me trust (can take over my emotions) so that I threw some of my landlady’s things out and made me not be decent to her nephew. As a result I will be made to leave in the middle of May. Also making it so that I can’t be too active looking for a new place to live and also disturbs my online classes. Also made me buy $100 in crypto which I know nothing about. Any suggestions please.
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Stop investing your precious time and money in scams and stop asking others for sympathy and attention when you do. You are responsible for you. This is your problem and you must solve it. The only way others can invest their time in helping you is if that investment is productive both for you and for them. You are sending signals that it will not be. You might want to rethink that.
I need to send Catherine info on things that are happening to me. Can you tell me how I can do this. It has to do with being controlled with microwave radiation (I think that is how I can describe it) which is dangerous to me. Thank you. Can you please tell me how to do this and I hope that any email that I receive from you or send to you will be received.
Margareta:
Experience information about targeting is well known. I would post anything that you think would inform our understanding of this phenomena at subscriber input. If you think it is not safe to post there, I would not post or send.
Please remember more or less that every person on the planet is a target. We can cooperate, but success at cooperation requires personal responsibility for our individual situation and helping others.
Catherine
It’s very hard to communicate ideas and to reach clarity on what we hear, say, read, and write to each other. That being said, there is a lot to glean from Cowan and Kaufman if one takes the time to understand, in particular, their position on germ theory. Kaufman does a better job explaining via his presentations. The germ theory angle matters because it was the excuse to take our rights amongst all the other bad outcomes. Think of the psychological devastation caused by the belief that people are dirty germ spreading factories and must therefore be subjugated to the will of technocrats.
How else to prevent future catastrophes claimed in the same vein of germ theory, because what if the next plandemic involves nastier silent weaponry that causes greater illness and death? Without truth or at least doubt on the matter of germ theory, panic would set in and people would again take the stockholm syndrome bait and side with their captors’ guidelines.
My final thought and principle I try to carry is reaching for court level evidence on everything that affects freedom. Cowan/Kaufman do not have all the answers, but they certainly would take the germ theorists to task in a court of law.
Wouldn’t a fever be evidence of some sort of an immune system?
Meditate, get rid of what is and of what isn’t, an empty mind and then hopefully get what is.
Now to ask a saucer of water what stocks to buy before I put it in the freezer.
an immune system would involve T cells, B cells, memory cells, etc. This is the ‘system’ that doesn’t exist except in sponsored scientists’ research labs.
the body protects itself and corrects anomalies within itself, but it doesn’t work the way scientists and doctors tell us.
Dear Catherine,
This is unfortunately one of the worst interviews I’ve ever seen of yours (and I’ve watched many). When talking to intelligent people, it’s best to just let them make their case and then respond – esp. if you don’t agree with them. You didn’t even let this guy get going before you dismissed him. Ironically, he’s saying about medicine exactly what you’re saying about finance: that a central fraud (viruses/M1 creation) is the basis of a whole infrastructure of fraud – yet you didn’t want to listen to him?
Maybe you could better promulgate your message if you tuned into what it was about Cowan’s thesis that triggered you. So far as I can see you both have important information to share.
To be clear I love your work and all your interviews (even this one). I’m just a little surprised to see you so adversarial to someone who’s broadly on our side..? But thanks for everything – pls keep it up!
PS: I’m saddened to read some of the comments below. I have some small involvement with medical doctors and one thing that has really struck me about them is their extraordinary intellectual conceit. I know academics with PHD’s in more than one discipline and post-doc’s as well who have more intellectual humility than your average medical doctor with a mere MBBS.
Alan
I was waiting for the big ahah moment until the last minute, to no avail.
The two take away gems were the photos of water being similar to being programed just as quartz crystal with the words spoken and subsequent outcome.
Painfully, I was already aware that the hundreds of hours spent studying hand drawn models of biology. I also regret the hours spent studying the kreb cycle.
I agreed with Catherine wholeheartedly about having no desire to pursue trying to prove others being duped.
Tom stated a few times that he really had no skin in the game, my analagy not his, about others coming to truth.
Should we bring this horse back to life so we can beat it some more?
Look to disprove falsehoods and the truth will reveal itself.
Ok, now what?
Yet, that was his only take away despite being asked multiple times, What is the take away here?
I awaited with baited breath until the end whilst listening with another subscriber, to no avail. We then spent and hour discussing what a colossal waste of valuable time it was waiting for a profound take away.
Catherine spent many hours round tabling with the big dogs, and is not willing to concede to someone else’s opinion to waste her valuable time knowing the big picture.
With that being said, I would rather have taken those two hours of my life, which I will never get back, researching the links that others suggested to further my study on the incredible properties of water.
I would just like to highlight to those who commented on the links I provided.
If proper time was taken to view and learn, and not just a peek and shreek, the follow up comments would prove to be interesting interactions.
With all this being said, I too was let down with the scant amount of information during the discussion.
Big disappointment after the hype and subsequent wait.
Catherine, I would like to encourage you to take a proper look at a book recently published by Dr. Ibirahim Karim.
He was a friend of Dr. Emoto and their work together with water and using BG3 is evidence of this.
HIDDEN REALITY: The BioGeometry Physics of Quality
The Science of Subtle Energy and Life Force
I just completed the Advanced Training Certification.
Proven Science, Valuable tools, valuable knowledge, no technology needed.
After reading this, I would not be surprised to see this as Book of the Year and a subsequent interview worthy of watching.
I await with baited breath any valuable response here.
Alan: I appreciate your input. I was tougher than usual because my expectation of the interview was that we were not going to spend any serious time revisiting the “do virus exist” question and that is where Tom wanted to begin rather than starting with the bigger picture. Some of our team felt we should not publish the interview given my frustration.
While I agree that the interview could have gone better, I did get to understand that there are some things we still need to explore.
I found Dr Cowan’s evangelical approach to the interview be a distraction, and simply skipped the next five minutes.
Dr Tom, the little invisible things that make us sick do matter, a lot. I read Virus Mania and have dove down the many made up bs lies about the so called Magic Virus. No I don’t think it was a virus, but it was a bio weapon that was sprayed or delivered some way. Robert Kennedy Jr made a statement in an interview that the CCP had figured out how to spray it at night. Yep that fits. Miss Catherine I am totally in your camp, it don’t matter in helping people. When I understand the bio weapon was engineered and has a patent number on it. And that it was made to drive the jab that is all I need to know. Because it all fits, the patent was developed to drive the lock downs, the jab was developed to put an operating sys inside us. Both fit together to build the control grid, period. Dr Tom 99 percent of the people are not going to follow you and believe, so your job is to simply it more and make it more logical. That is why Catherine resisted and pushed back so much. I agree with her. Also agree with her on “immune system”. Call it whatever you want to call it, I don’t care. But the gut bacteria play a huge role in this. My guess is they produce an electrical field that is connected to the brain. But they are big players. I changed my gut bacteria at age 60 8 years ago. I have not been sick in 8 yrs, and no I did not get the V, nor did I take any jabs. As a side note I will never take any more jabs of any kind. Only had one flu shot once in my whole life. If I was raising kids today they would get zero jabs. But to boil this down as Miss Catherine stated at the first, most all and me included, yes I believe they use tiny particles to harm us and control us thru putting or getting nano bugs etc inside us. See vids here on Solari about mind control. So as Miss Catherine said how do we stop the control grid? Dr Tom you have got to boil this down so it is simple and logical, that is key. One last suggestion to you both if you have not read it The Body Electric by Dr Robert Becker MD. He was a great scientist, he even figured out how we transmit electrical signals in the body. Got cross ways with gov and they shut his lab down. One other book that helps define what they did to us Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars 1954. Miss Catherine and Dr Tom this book answers your long held question……..why. I learned of this book from Dr Lee Merritt MD.
Jimmy:
Living as we both do in the rural south does wonderful things in terms of grounding you into the dirt and divine intelligence. Thanks.
Catherine
Now in March 2023, I agree the biggest impact we can have is not to get everyone to understand viruses don’t exist. The majority of people who had to get the shot got it and the damage continues to be done. There is however some gain to be had from the fact if people realize they don’t exist, then they see they took those shots for “nothing”. Linking back to the recent Rasmussen survey showing a large percentage of Americans think those shots cause bad side effects including death, then they see they took the shots as part of the depopulation agenda. If they realize that, then they wonder what else they were lied about and challenge other things such as poisoning of the air and food and also everything else related to viruses such as the whole HIV/AIDS scare. It’s all about educating people one thing at a time. After viruses, then you learn that bacteria and fungi are actually used by the body to repair and whatever the body doesn’t need, it discards. Perhaps read on Dr Hamer and the biological laws. For example, people are afraid of cancer. Well, if you understand that there’s a conflict behind all diseases, then you know you have to figure out the emotional trauma behind a specific cancer and it goes away by itself. This is if it’s a cancer on an organ for which the brain relay is in the old brain. If the relay is in the new brain, the cancer is actually the healing phase. So if we educate people, then they stop being afraid. Catherine, with your background in finance and banking, you’re already doing great in informing people with what you know. I’m glad to be a subscriber and always listen to all episodes of Money and Markets. Interviews such as this one are also great to have, even if after you don’t put your time on proving viruses don’t exist.
For what it’s worth, my take on ‘why vaccines’, besides the other forms of poisoning, has to do with the harvesting our energy through conscious permission. The poison through the food, air and water comes with unconscious consent, but going out to get something injected into your muscle tissue or blood stream is conscious. I think that might be a much more effective energy drain or harvesting. It could have had another form, but they might have chosen this one, maybe, because it is so invasive. I, for one, cannot watch a video of someone taking an injection without my whole body revolting (is that a correct way of saying this? I am not a native English speaker. It’s like my stomach turns, every tine I watch it).
What I mean by energy harvesting I will try to explain as follows: if your body and soul are well aligned, you are grounded and have your feet solid on the ground. You will have a healthy energy body (your energy field will be clear/light of colour). In which case you are not easliy fooled or influenced, even when you do not know much about the topic, Your intuition will work. When the opposite is true, you do not have that ‘protection’ and can be tricked more easliy.
The easiest way to illustrate this is for example when you, as a woman, have given birth to a healthy child, will not easily give it to someone who is going to hurt it by injecting a needle into it. If you do let this happen, you get fragmented, because a voice is whispering ‘this is the right thing to do to protect my child’, while another part gets torn into pieces for letting this happen. So you have to ingnore that part of you that is hurting.
I an not saying that it is your fault. There are many reasons why this could be the situation.
You might find Forest Maready’s books of interest. I have written book reviews for most of them. https://home.solari.com/blast-from-the-past-week-of-june-6-2022-the-forrest-maready-library/
Absolutely loved this conversation. So human and so real. So great to have two minds debate the reality or the charade that we are in and draw the right conclusions. It made me feel centred, grounded and safe that it’s actually all down to me and what I chose to believe. Thankfully I have like you Catherine and Tom Cowan never believed in the latest hoax of Covid and even going back to HIV I knew that was a farce. I know I’m a fire horse (born 1966) and having that belief has always kept me strong. However what has been hard is the amount of fight needed in the past few years as this has been such a powerful psyop on humanity and sometimes it has been a lonely road! Thank you as that was a really enjoyable hour xx
Not a WAPF member, but I did drive down from VA to attend the Solari gathering (which was altogether too brief!). I felt Catherine handled Asher’s run at the issue with her usual grace and aplomb. I do feel there is a lot of pseudo-science in virology and I believe the vast majority of vaccines are harmful, if not all. I stopped my own son’s childhood program very early on after a retired pediatric nurse whom I had hired as a nanny shared her experiences, including heartbreaking post-vaccination SIDS, autism, allergies, and asthma. So glad that I did; he’s one of the healthiest people I know, suffering from none of these conditions like so many young people today.
I have read “The Truth about Contagion” (the name under which “The Contagion Myth” was republished, but I’m assuming essentially the same content). I found many of the alternative theories of disease compelling and well worth considering. Obviously, because Big Pharma and Rockefeller-dominated medical education have had a virtual monopoly on scientific and medical research, there are not a lot of studies out there to satisfy those who believe “publication” is the holy grail. But then, after the last three years, so many of these publications have been proven to be utterly fraudulent and just plain wrong, I’m not sure most are worth the paper they are written on. (For an interesting pre-Covid take on the flawed process, you might want to read James Corbett’s The Crisis of Science; did you know per the scientific journal Nature,70% of study results cannot be reproduced? https://www.corbettreport.com/the-crisis-of-science-is-worse-than-you-think/)
Yes, there are many holes in the terrain theory that need to be plugged, and in the absence of solid alternative explanations for each and every condition, it can feel like those practitioners who believe viruses are actually exosomes, not contagions, are being dismissive. But I also know Andy Kaufman personally and have used his consultative services. We disagreed on a couple of issues, but this much I can tell you: He is not some clueless shill being used by the “Adversary”; his beliefs are his own, based on his own research, that of Tom Cowan, Dr. Stefan Lanka, and many, many doctors in the past who were censored and defrocked by said same pharmaceutical industry that has made trillions of dollars poisoning children and adults.
Well said, Mary. My observations and study closely mirror yours.
Reposting here my Yelp Review on Dr. Cowan from January 2014:
I took my 5-year-old daughter to see Dr. Cowan in 2011. She had all sorts of symptoms, including autism, digestive distress, allergies, etc. She was having a ‘good’ day on the day we went, so he didn’t believe me on any of her symptoms. He told me I was a paranoid parent and that I was depriving my child by keeping gluten, dairy, grains & sugars out of her diet. I told him that this was the only diet under which she could function. He didn’t believe me.
I did convince him to give us a lab script for Lyme testing, and told him that she had 2 previous tick bites. It came back positive on Band 41 and he wrote “No evidence of Lyme” on the results.
Fast forward 2 years and this child has been crippled by Lyme disease. It turns out that Band 41 is the first band to show up when someone contracts Lyme disease. Apparently Dr. Cowan had no idea. Had we treated this child back then, her prognosis would’ve been much brighter than it is right now.
Furthermore, Thomas Cowan has an arrogant attitude. It doesn’t matter if you’ve done research and are a well educated parent who’s come a long road. He knows everything and you know nothing.
He says he supports the WAPF diet, but my experience is that he only supports the still-sugar-addicted version of the diet.
https://www.yelp.com/biz/thomas-cowan-md-san-francisco
Susan:
I am so sorry to hear this. I had a wonderful client who spent decades trying to diagnosis what she had and how to heal it so I know what a challenging road it is. I have found that I have to be my own doctor. My father was a surgeon and he certainly communicated that fact to his children. I can ask for help from nurses and doctors and other professionals but in the end I am responsible to figure it out and make the decisions – and live with them. Hard to find the time though. I think of all the hours I spent in formal education learning things that were not relevant, useful or true. When I could have been learning the things we need.
Agree totally Catherine, and that’s what we’ve done since then. Still, my daughter’s Lyme wouldn’t be chronic had we known enough to catch it back when we got that initial test done.
Still, IMHO Cowan’s ratio of knowledge:ego doesn’t warrant him being promoted on Solari. That’s my metric.
Understood. The offset is what he has done to build and support the Weston Price foundation is very very significant. The impact has been phenomenal and has done great good.
I was a WAPF member living in Cowan’s community/practice area for over a decade in the Bay Area of California. As such, I have a very different perspective on his ‘contributions’ to WAPF.
He had a failing medical practice because he charged a lot of money telling people viruses didn’t exist, they weren’t sick and it was all in their heads. He latched on to WAPF in an attempt to get more clients and save his practice. Many liked the fact that he didn’t tell them to cut down on sugars. Others saw through it. Eventually his practice did fail.
Let me share the prayer I said for Cowan many years ago:
Dear Lord, May Dr. Cowan be protected from Lyme and all other diseases. May he never experience the suffering that many of his patients do. May he never be forced by physical and mental suffering to change his opinion that viruses don’t exist.
Indeed, my prayers have been answered- so far. I’ll keep praying for him.
After a few years off work to figure out our own health, we documented what we learned, the tools we learned, etc. on our website. For free, no ads, no wands, no products sold. 🙂
https://debugyourhealth.com/
Wow, that’s an incredible website with an enormous wealth of high-quality information. Thank you!
Susan:
What a wonderful site. Did not realize this was available. OK if put a link up on our Building Wealth site?
Sure you can link to the website if you think it’s useful. It was scrubbed from search engine results back in 2019, along with several others. In hindsight this was probably a preparation for the pandemic. Still, the people who need it seem to find it anyway.
That’s when Robin Washington, CFO of Gilead was added to the board of Alphabet. April of 2019. selfhacked.com went from page 1 to page 3-4+.
https://abc.xyz/investor/news/releases/2019/0430/#:~:text=(NASDAQ%3A%20GOOG%2C%20GOOGL),Leadership%20Development%20and%20Compensation%20Committee.
Susan, I have been meaning to write you to tell you that I love your website! SO much great information! As usual, everyone is different and what works for some may not work for others. But just seeing how your research has helped your family will help others to put together a plan to figure out what might work for them. You know that us Mom’s can’t sit around waiting for doctors or nurses to tell us how to help our children, we must figure it out ourselves. Your site gives people a ‘leg up’ to various ideas that they can then try for themselves. Just like Jon Rappoport says, illness and disease is never caused by One Thing. This is The Great Poisoning and we must have a variety of tools in our toolbox to help.
It takes a lot of hard work to heal our babies and ourselves. I am so proud of everything you do! I can’t tell you how many doctors didn’t believe me as I was healing/recovering my oldest son. It took a while but chelation and nutritional changes like GFCF brought back my sweet boy’s voice/language. It’s a much longer story but he is doing very well. His vaccine free baby brother isn’t on any special diet and can have raw milk and gluten. Bryan does tolerate Casein-free Ghee but Gluten is still not tolerable, and believe me, it’s NOT in my head nor is being on a GFCF diet depriving him of any nutrition or joy in the least! But, I know many that were able to come off that diet and do very well. But, like I said before, something that works for one person may not work for others.
Just like treatments, therapies and snowflakes, health professionals are different in a variety of ways. Just because one person was helped by one Doctor doesn’t mean that Doc will be the right fit for another person. I have a doctor on call in case of an ER visit for a broken bone/heart issues etc… or if I need a doctor’s note for various activities. I realized long ago that I know my child and family best. I am the expert in this house. So, I can call other experts for advice but I never leave the research up to them. ; )
I think you will like the next interview I am working on for The Solari Health Series about detoxing/chelation that we can do at home. It is with a Mom who kicks butt just like you. I think you will love it. Thank you for all your fabulous hard work!
Have a wonderful week,
Jen
Thanks for the true and kind words Jennifer. I very much look forward to your interviews!
Susan,
Have you read the book Lyme Disease and the SS Elbrus by Rachel Verdon? It is not a wonderfully written book but there is interesting information to be gleaned from FOIA requests the author has been submitting for decades. The author has Lyme and her sister has Lupus.
I loved this book and hated it. And will read it again.
haha!
Ron, That is the best description of how that book made me feel as well! And I will read it again too! -Jen
Sandra, Great reference! Your comments are always spot on. Have a great week! -Jen
Thanks for sharing Sandra! I haven’t read the books or heard of them before. I’ll put them on my to-read pile. Honestly, we are now blessed with radiant health, and the debugging skills to figure out whatever health issues come our way, so I don’t ‘research’ health topics much anymore. These books sound fascinating though.
I can remember my kids getting older and not remembering their symptoms of autism, inability to walk, etc etc. Either they were too young or their brains blocked it out. So, I drove them to the parking lot of the local Lyme clinic. We sat outside and watched the constant stream of people being literally dragged into the office, pushed in wheelchairs with IV bags, etc. It’s an eye-opening experiment for those who don’t believe in Lyme.
Suggest two books. Why We Get Sick by Dr Ben Bikman and vids by this Dr Annette Bosworth MD and her book that will help heal the gut etc Keto Cotummun Healing the gut with ultra low carb and adding ferments is super powerful and includes lime problems from all I have read.
Thanks! If you take a look at our website, you will find much on those topics. We have since figured out all of our health issues. We are now all blessed with radiant health :). The post that I copied here is from the year 2014.
Cowan is open to the concept of energy medicine, as many other docs jumping ship. However, when he and Andy Kaufman, previously a psych doc, were on an interview with Dr. Alphonzo Monzo lll last week, they were both dismissive and tapped out of the converstation. The comments during the interview by the viewers after their simultaneous exit stage left are worth the read. Cowan and Kaufman are still utilizing western medical diagnostics and seemingly unwilling and unable to leave their medical model behind. They should follow the recommendations of Dr. Carrie Madej, as she has been working closely with Dr. Monzo for two years now. Rather than being dismissive, they should all be willing to play in the sand box together. This war is not fought with a stethescope, reading lab values and touting supplements. Dr. Monzo is light years ahead in his research, literally.
https://rumble.com/v2a6oq2-dr-ardis-dr-tom-cowan-dr-andrew-kaufman-and-dr-monzo-on-germ-theory-and-ven.html
start at about hour 1 25 mins
it is worth watching after the nettie pot recommendation.
If only Cowan and Kaufman had a clue.
https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/analemma-water-wand/luxury/
Dr. Kaufman offers a crystal wand that likes to be in the sunlight to structure water. Items such as this and many supplements are offered here to detox from the weaponized pathogens that we have been exposed to in the mass genocide we are currently experiencing.
Which of Dr. C & K’s products are for detoxing from weaponized pathogens?
None of their products are capable of doing so. Yet, weaponized pathogens are in our water. The magic wand seemingly is able to take tap water and filter out all the impurities and restructure making it healthful for your body. They are unaware of the energetic trauma held by the water that is literally taken in by thousands of humans, excreted, flushed, filtered and sent out again. The frequencies of the weaponized pathogens are in the water excreted by humans, filtered and redistributed to consume again.
They tout the crystal wand is able to take tap water and purify it of all things.
They do not claim weaponized pathogens.
Yet, they are in the catagory of “all things”.
False claims and directing the public that it is now safe to drink the water, for they are providing the means to do so.
I have had the wand for years. I bought from Dr. C’s site. It was never promoted to purify water.
https://drtomcowan.com/products/analemma-water-wand/?variant=39929603784857
Me too, Ron. Agree with you on this. The wand is strictly for restructuring water as it was originally intended. Cowan and Kaufman only recommend distilled (with remineralization via Celtic sea salt) and reverse osmosis water as the purest forms of water (unless obtained from a clean, unadulterated natural spring source). And then the wand is recommended to restructure the distilled or RO water to its intended state.
Just to clarify, Cowan does NOT promote the “magic wand” to purify water. He clearly states that the water must be purified first before using the crystal wand to create a vortex to restructure the water, making it similar to water in nature, ie, not stagnant water from man-made reservoirs, etc. It’s fine to disagree with someone, but not necessary to malign based on your own misreading.
The videos clearly state that tap water can be used.
https://analemma-water.com/faq/
please read all the drop down sections
How the Analemma ‘stick’ influences tap water to become coherent even though it is contained in a crystal glass tube.
Aǹalemma tube contains what we call “the mother water”. It is the water of extreme coherence and electromagnetic power. As soon as any H2O molecules come in close proximity to it they begin to rearrange into a liquid crystalline structure.
“If I add regular tap water in coherent water, will it all become coherent?
No, once you add regular water, it is necessary to stir Aǹalemma in the new body of water shortly, to treat all the water molecules.
“If I take Analemma with me on trips when I travel and have to go through the usual security and X-rays at the airport, will it lose its properties?
We radiated the Aǹalemma water in many ways to see whether it will lose its structure and go back to chaos and it didn’t. Once treated it stays in the state of coherence for years.There are no external detrimental influences (that we are aware of) that degrade the structure and efficiency of Aǹalemma water. (we tested many) X-rays and scans will not affect Aǹalemma in any way.This is clearly not possible.
Please provide the research and site the sources.
Is the word purify used?
The analemma water wand is based upon well respected research in the field of structured water. I would recommend studying the work of esteemed scientists in the field of water research including but not limited to Jerald Pollack, https://hexagonalwater.com/jerald_pollack.html , Jacques Benveniste https://hexagonalwater.com/j__benveniste.html , Masaru Emoto https://hexagonalwater.com/masaru_emoto.html , Viktor Schauberger https://hexagonalwater.com/viktor_schauberger.html , Luc Montagnier https://hexagonalwater.com/luc_montagnier.html , and many others. Once one has a grasp of the importance of structured water, then it is much easier to appreciate the opportunity to be able to structure their own water for consumption. I enthusiastically encourage any and all interested to study structured water.
Thanks for sharing this info. We have our own well, drawing water that has run through bedrock of granite and quartz from a 300 ft. depth. I also use an ionizer, with its own filter, that allows me to bring the slightly acidic water to a neutral pH without any chemicals. Probably not a perfect solution, but an improvement over what most folks have to endure with fluoride, chlorine, etc. Nevertheless, the concept of structured water is new to me and intriguing.
One final thought: I actually think that often in our pursuit of the perfect diet, water, and EMF environment, we can become obsessive and even fearful, not a good recipe for well being. Our bodies have their own wisdom, knowing and integrating what is beneficial in what we consume, rejecting or eliminating what is not. So long as we don’t overwhelm it, keep those paths of elimination open and – most importantly – we imagine ourselves as healthy, thriving shards of the Divine, we should be able to have our cake and eat it, too. (;
I agree with your final thought, what a wonderful way to put it. Positive thinking plus Pathways of elimination need to be clear and our God created bodies can work to help us stay healthy for sure! Thank you for sharing. I love my Solari family. -Jen
Dr. Cowan and Dr. Kaufman are obviously both highly researched in their specialty areas. Diabolic, advanced weaponized pathogens have been used for decades on the population since WWII. Their viruses do not exist teachings and terrain theory is a fraction of the picture and a diversion. The Adversary is using these men as a diversion and making a mockery of the situation. I pray for absolute cohesion and collaboration of all the great minds playing in the sand box. Honestly, woo-woo energy medicine and glorified detoxification supplies discredits the profession of health and wellness. It certainly does not reflect the quantum world we are living in as evidenced by the link for a magic water wand sold on Dr. Kaufman’s link below. Tap water certainly can be cleared by a crystal wand in the figure of eight infinity sign after it has been charged in the sun can it not?
This is why “a little bit” of esoteric knowledge is dangerous.
https://rumble.com/v2ap11i-structured-water-device-vs-magic-wands-ft-theoria-apophasis-elite-stir-stic.html
An interesting teaching about water to include trauma it holds, how to clean, clear the trauma memory and restructuring. At hour 2:22 is a critical analysis of the wand.
With all due respect, I would encourage you to research this for yourself directly through the researchers listed on https://hexagonalwater.com rather than from Mr. “Ba’Al Buster” on the Rumble platform. Their research and publications can be easily found in many other places.
Thank you for the suggestion and link.
I have been fascinated by the study of water over the years and appreciate continuing with a variety of sources.
There are contradictions in the claims on the site.
Should I use filtered water? their answer, yes
If I add tap water to the structured water will the wand restructure it?
Their answer, yes
This suggests the wand properties are able to purify the water by the energetic exchange.
Their claim that all methods of radiation when traveling by X-rays and other means will not harm the structure at all in repeated studies.
Please watch the marketing videos for the wand.
If you do not see the hype and magical spell casting, then by all means enjoy using the expensive swizel stick.
The power of your mind overcomes all things.
Restructuring water is important. Water has trauma memory. This too is important to address as all frequency is taken in by consumption.
The Ba’Al video adds has many interesting concepts from a variety of other sources.
It also is a critical analysis of the advertising and claims for this wand that you may be interested in.
This wand not remove the residual, energetic trauma from being consumed by thousands of humans, flushed, processed and redistributed.
An expensive water filter, and wand does not remover the energetic imprint the water memory holds.
There are interesting photographs of this in the video the viewers may wish to see capturing the aforementioned.
I always reserve the right to change my mind with further investigation and research.
This platform brings hidden and new things to the forefront on a regular basis. I am grateful for the opportunity to share.
With that being said, a 360 degree view should be taken with the topics at hand.
Energy medicine is in the forefront.
Many medical doctors are defecting and jumping into these waters and people are trusting in this new paradigm.
Humans are gullible and trust the “experts?”
We all trusted, Western Medicine and the field of Psychology.
I worked as a medical professional for 25 years and once trusted the science I was taught without questioning.
When the scales were removed from my eyes, I had to repent for participation and the works of my hands.
Even though I thought I was helping others at the time, my participation in the medical mafia was real.
I am accountable for my actions.
I have been working in the field of energy medicine and continue to hold myself accountable by using the template of Scientific Approach and Research.
Question all things and do your own research.
Looking back, I regret much of what I was involved in thinking it was for the greater good.
This includes being vaccine injured myself, and consenting for my son as an infant to be injected with the Hepatitis B vaccine before leaving the hospital.
My son is vaccine injured as well.
I have been studying the field of alternative modalities for quite some time.
I once walked in esoterism as well for a season searching for truth when the veil was lifted.
I referred to the Ba’Al discussions for for the viewers to review a recent interview with Dr. Cowan, Dr. Kaufman and two other doctors.
It is worthy of a proper look.
The Ba’Al platform wand review of the companies claims and videos on their website is worthy of a proper look.
Thank you Catherine for this platform where subscribers may offer input.
I do value and appreciate all the comments, suggestions and links to further my own research on the topic of water and other things.