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“There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things.” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
By Catherine Austin Fitts
Karel van Wolfren is an author, journalist, professor, publisher and one of the most respected voices in the Netherlands on geopolitics. Last week I visited Karel for a wide ranging discussion on his views about events in the Ukraine and how they relate to the push for central control globally.
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Thank you for this interview and insights – very interesting and obviously two „characters“, who are playing in the Champions Leagure, giving us a nice 2h education!
BR from Lux
Time 59.50: Why, as Karel says, can’t you have a democracy without a state? The Iroquois nation, for example, had a strong democratic tradition without being a state and many other organisations are democratic without be states. Although I may be wrong on this, I believe the Mormon and Amish communities elect their leaders democratically.
Karel later claims that China is not about control but rather harmony. That sounds poetic, but in this case harmony is just a nice word for obedience.
I recently watched a video about the Korean Chaebol called ‘South Korea’s Untouchable Families’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHw7Aa7lhhw
The position of the chaebol in Korea is not unlike the current situatoin woth our corporate and banking executives. In this video it talks about how the chaebol recruit youngsters from schools and universities. They only want the ‘best’. What does ‘the best’ mean? The two traits they look for are intelligence and obedience. Intelligence means having high grades, which within the context of the Asia education system means not asking questions but rather memorising and repeating what the wise elders tell you. Obedience means not making waves but complying and doing what you’re told. This is how to build ‘harmony’.
Time 106.00: Is the Kremlin a challenge to Davos? Perhaps superficially but I doubt it at the 3 or 4-D chess level.
Here’s an article contending that the “Putin was kicked out of the WEF in 2015′ myth does not hold water”:
https://www.martinvrijland.nl/en/news-analyses/het-poetin-is-in-2015-het-wef-uitgeknikkerd-fabeltje-houdt-geen-stand/
What is the name of the Russian history book That was mentioned?
The Tragedy of Russia’s Reforms: Market Bolshevism Against Democracy / by Peter Reddaway & Dmitri Glinski
https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Russias-Reforms-Bolshevism-Democracy/dp/1929223064/
What is the name of the book on the Russian history that was mentioned?
The Tragedy of Russia’s Reforms: Market Bolshevism Against Democracy / by Peter Reddaway & Dmitri Glinski
https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Russias-Reforms-Bolshevism-Democracy/dp/1929223064/
What was the name of the book that was referred to?
Thanks.
The Tragedy of Russia’s Reforms: Market Bolshevism Against Democracy / by Peter Reddaway & Dmitri Glinski
https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Russias-Reforms-Bolshevism-Democracy/dp/1929223064/
Wonderful interview, thank you. Never heard of Karel van Wolferen but I can see why Catherine admires him and his knowledge.
Now interview E. Michael Jones to discuss his epic `The Jewish Revolutionary Spirt’ which will fill in a LOT of the blanks about who the elephant in the room is.
Is there a way to translate his magazine to English? I also want to subscribe
Thank you for this, it was so good to listen to.
A tiny selection of the articles in the magazine is published online. You can use the translation function of your browser in order to read in English.
https://gezondverstand.eu/preview-artikelen/
Only 18 mns into the interview and the 2D chess game has already morphed into a 3D game.
Monsieur Global plays on both/all sides… Fascinating, yet worrisome.
Excellente conversation.
Merci Catherine & The Solari team!
What if the Ukraine-Russia war is not real? What if it’s built upon lies? What if Putin made a deal with Mr Global? Ukrainian land is a major provider to global food chain, it’s up for grabs with its people fleeing. European governments are using the (real) refuge crisis to grab land and property from its citizens. The trading restrictions are straining the US and German economies and its people. The war fear propaganda is drowning the truth being released from the FOIA Pfizer documents -the timing is suspicious. What if a nuclear bomb will be used to explain away all the future (jab) deaths? Maybe the disinformation is larger than what was presented in this interview. Or maybe I’m simply not short on conspiracy ideas (!)
The Western financial interests are clearly on both sides of this. That is why I am not as optimistic as Karel.
thank you
Or make possible for GMOś to step in as itś been rather limited in the EU. Itś an open door! Just a thought
Amazing interview! Thank you!
How do you subscribe to his magazine? Is it in English?
Wonderful conversation.
Anne
In Dutch
Fantastic discussion
now I want to subscribe to his magazine as well
Karel & Catherine, two of my heroes together.
I enjoyed every second of the conversation.
Please keep talking!
Thank you Catherine. Without you & Solari, I would have fallen into the deep dark pit of mis/dis-information.
The disinformation is unbelievable. Never seen is this bad.
Thank you Catherine for your Solari Report! Truth is available thanks to you!! Disinformation has become a free for all, since the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act was passed. Obama made a campaign promise come true, by fundamentally
changing America by slipping it into the NDAA of 2012.
I second that! Thank you so much Catherine for all the time and hard work you have put into this website along with all the podcasts you have been a part of these last few years. You have been a breath of fresh air in the midst of all the chaos Mr. Globalist has brought to our world. The disinformation swirling around us has been deafening.
Couldn’t agree more JoAnn. Successfully navigating through this age we live in without excellent intel seems very hard to do.
I am speechless. Finally you two got together. Thank you so much for this interview.
So glad you enjoyed it, Alexandra. You are the astute observer!