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“It doesn’t have to be like this.”
~ Toby Rogers (Substack tagline)

By Catherine Austin Fitts

This week, we welcome political economist and public policy expert Dr. Toby Rogers to the Solari Report. Rogers earned his PhD in 2019 at the University of Sydney in Australia, writing a doctoral thesis titled The Political Economy of Autism, which estimated that U.S. autism costs would exceed $1 trillion by 2025. That estimate, he noted at the time, would surpass official Defense Department spending as a proportion of GDP.

There are scores of analysts who discuss the medical and pharmaceutical industries from a conventional profit and loss standpoint and never get to the heart of the matter. Rogers, however, is that rare and courageous individual looking at the underlying business model behind the profits: poisoning. This is one of the points he emphasizes in his June 2023 article titled “How then shall we think about the economy?”, which we discuss in the interview. While recognizing that the pharmaceutical industry is not the sole vector of poisoning, he observes that it “is upriver from everything that happens in our economy because they begin poisoning almost everyone in utero so everything that happens after that is in some way shaped by Pharma’s toxic chemical assault.” This turns out to be “great” for GDP because poisoning not only leads to more medical/pharmaceutical interventions but also is responsible for rising non-medical costs in a wide variety of sectors.

Rogers also boldly uses the word “iatrogenocide” (doctor- or medicine-led genocide), bringing it to the forefront of discussions about the past several years’ events, even when others hesitate to acknowledge the intentionality of what has been happening. Nor is he afraid to name names, refusing to let off the hook the individuals at agencies like the CDC and FDA who “want to permanently enslave your children to the pharmaceutical industry.”

Rogers has achieved numerous breakthroughs that can contribute to a wide range of efforts. Although the topics we discuss are somber, he is not, sharing an inspiring focus on actions and solutions. Solari’s Building Wealth curriculum can also help you understand risk management and shows why living equity is central to wealth-building.

Money & Markets:

In Money & Markets this week, John Titus and I will cover the latest events and continue to discuss the financial and geopolitical trends Solari is tracking in 2023—and the pushback rocking and rolling us around the globe. Post questions at the Money & Markets commentary here.

Related Resources:

How then shall we think about the economy?

The iatrogenocide accelerates

The wealth of nations

The Political Economy of Autism (doctoral thesis)

The True Cost of Autism with Toby Rogers (The Highwire, Episode 146)

Toby Rogers on Substack

Toby Rogers at Brownstone Institute

The War on Informed Consent: The Persecution of Dr. Paul Thomas

Related Solari Reports:

Building Wealth curriculum

Building Wealth: Living Equity pillar

Autism Media Channel: Polly Tommey and Catherine discuss the Family Financial Disclosure Form

Book Review: The Autism Epidemic: Transhumanism’s Dirty Little Secret

Book Review: The Autism Vaccine

Blast from the Past: Week of June 6, 2022: The Forrest Maready Library


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  1. Toby just wrote an update to this story on his Substack (Jan 3, 2024): “‘Autism Tsunami’ republished in the journal Science, Public Health Policy, & the Law.” I can’t link to it but a search will pull it up

    1. Another bell ringer of an interview. Similar to the Charles Stephens interview, it would be mighty jake if this interview be made available to non subscribers. Thank you Catherine for your continued top notch guests, interviews, and subject matter.

    1. Bradley:

      It is in the links at the bottom of the interview in the Related Reading links.

  4. There was one thing I did not agree with in this video. It has to do with the families spending a ton of money on their autistic children. As someone who has first hand knowledge of who/what is paying for Autism in the state of Colorado, I can assure you that, at least in certain states EVERYTHING is paid for through medicaid. This includes their full time ABA (applied behavioral analysis) schools, their outside home health therapies, if in the public school system medicaid is also being billed by the therapists, and the families receive an SS check each month from the time that child is very young and for as long as the family is caring for this individual. All medications are paid for. In many of the families I work for the parent is also able to become the child’s full-time nurse and get paid for this as their full-time job. Respite services are free. I bring all this up to say that besides paying taxes like everyone else, the parents are not out of money due to this, however the society at large is already footing the bill for this and believe me it is a big bill. This may not be the same in other states or countries, but in Colorado it is. I’ve wondered about this for along time…How can medicaid pay for all of this?

    1. One more thing I would like to add. I absolutely believe the autism rates have skyrocketed, but I do wonder if they are truly as high as they say they are. I have worked with a FEW children diagnosed with autism over the years and I did not see one sign of autism in that child….but the parents were getting a social security check for this child.

      1. Excellent points, Raquel. In my experience there is variation in the generosity of states. The bill for taxpayers, however is staggering. You are right that there are a fair amount of diagnosis that are used to justify financial support, In Tennessee when I first arrived the press was on to identify a child as ADHD and get them on drugs so you could get a disability check from Social Security. In essence for both children and adults there was an explosion of using disability like a long term welfare system.

      2. Hi Raquel, You are not wrong! The state pays a huge amount and it isn’t sustainable. It sounds like CO is very generous! My primary experience is in MN (26 years in the system there) where my son had a very generous budget. Just no programming or workers to pay with it. It does vary from state to state, county to county, even agency/social worker to sw. Parents can be paid, but usually only for 40 hours (if it’s covered in the budget, which the state determines), which would be great if a family is able to find workers for the other hours and/or programming (if past school age.) I could go on..
        We decided to leave MN for a day program in WI which the state is (thankfully) paying for. The day program is actually less expensive than the alternate (institutional) which isn’t acceptable to me. Unfortunately, the state is relying on parents like me to cover the hours that someone else will have to eventually cover (when I’m gone.) We are working on getting things in place before that happens.
        I’m sure you know that many of us tried to and still try to educate our elected officials. For some reason it just doesn’t seem to be top of list. 🙂 Thanks for doing the work you do with families, Raquel! It is so appreciated!

      1. I don’t know the exact amount, but it’s very common to see among the families with disabilities. I guess they figure that they may need a nurse anyways so just pay the parents to do this…and they do need to get training.

  5. Catherine you always bring the best and brightest! This is an amazing conversation and collaboration. Thank you, thank you, thank you! I would still be flailing around looking for real knowledge if not for Solari. I will join Dr. Toby Rogers Substack.

    1. I am so glad that Toby has been so well received. He truly is a remarkable man and his work is invaluable.

  6. What an enlightening conversation. I hope there is a way to share this with all of our lawmakers–to open their minds, not only to what is occurring, but also to a way forward from here.

  8. Brilliant is the word for this conversation. So much great insight. I’m more hopeful just knowing that people like you are hard at work creating a future where life on Earth can thrive. In my own systems work, one hardly ever finds a linear curve in describing how Earth processes unfold. I believe we’ve entered an exponential unveiling of the criminal rackets who have been conducting these predatory activities for hundreds of years. Thank you, Toby (and Catherine) for your leadership and insights!

  10. I am thrilled to learn that Naomi Klein (Disaster Capitalism) sided with Trudeau et al during the truckers’ protest. I met her at one of her talks and made sure to tell her she is not who she seems to be. She was taken aback, of course. I am now redeemed. Thank you, Toby, for that information. I’ve always believed she has been fed the information that appears in her books.

    1. Wow, very interesting comment. I read Klein’s book The Shock Doctrine back in ’07 and I got chills thinking about the wave that was to hit America and here we are –even worse. Over the last couple of years I have heard some of her comments that made me wonder who she really is; you may be right; she’s just a pawn.

    3. I’ve been watching the mind control of Naomi Klein too. No way the woman who wrote Shock Doctrine goes to work for Klaus Schwab. Hell, they turned Bradley Manning into a woman just to prove that point.
      Everyone in the fightback needs to pay very close attention to their “inner voice” and their “inspirations.” Make sure they are yours… and not some AI driven portion of the Body Area Network (BAN) System.

  12. Absolutely amazing discussion! It’s so refreshing to hear such great minds. It actually gives me some hope. Thanks so much!

  13. Excellent. Thank you Catherine and Dr. Rogers for your work! One point of clarification. I think Dr. Thomas only included patients in his study who were “born into” his practice, meaning they have been patients since birth. He did not include any patients who to came his practice later in life. This is important because if he had included patients who had been with other pediatricians and later moved to his practice, the prevalence of autism among those patients could be skewed higher simply because he probably has a lot of autistic patients seeking his help due to his reputation. I’m a big fan of Dr. Thomas…he helped me come to the decision not to vaccinate my children. Keep up the good work Catherine!

  15. Catherine,
    The book you are thinking of is How Then Should We Live by the theologian Francis Schaeffer.

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